Do you hafta go through the pastor?

Originally Posted by Barb

Re taking liberty and putting in bonds, I think I posted a few days ago my understanding of Matthew 18...that the Lord was instructing and preparing them re matters of Church discipline, using the words bind and loose, which in Hebrew are forbid and permit.

So, if you are asking, do I believe a pastor or governing body has the scriptural right to bind or loose (sit down or reprimand) another Saint of God?!

Yes I do...I know you do not agree...

Do they have the right to permit or forbid something beyond or short of what is Biblical in principle?

In other words, does a pastor by name's sake have a right to run it his own way or does he have a responsibility to run it God's way?

I could start organization X and call myself a Pastor, because I felt called you know, does this give me scriptural right to run my followers any way I want?

Or worse, any way anti-Christ traditions have always taught me?

Sorry Barb, I'm not trying to put you personally on the spot, but do you see where this kind of thing gets the perpetuating power of man's traditions?

I believe that the Apostles and early church did things radically different than the way 'the church' has learned to do things from systems contrary.

Is the UPCi and the like not a protestant system with a oneness Acts 2:38 band-aid? There is very little difference otherwise. At some point one must do their history to find out why. Where did the protestant system get its roots? It all stems from a harlot that is calling her daughters home.

Hopefully, that which makes this movement different will help us resist the call....no matter the cost.