Pro 11:14
"Where NO counsel is, the people FALL: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety."
Pro 15:22
"Without counsel purposes are disappointed: but in the multitude of counsellors they are ESTABLISHED."
Pro 24:6
"For by wise counsel thou shalt make thy war: and in multitude of counsellors there is SAFETY."
I understand that you have enacted the above principle when you asked for the counsel of this forum, but still asking a forum and having ministers are two different things.
You see there's a little red X in the top right corner of this screen and if you don't like what's being said to you, all you need to do is click it, but if you are with ministers, elders, mentors, and pastors, you can't do that. You may be able to leave the building, the ministry your attached to, or no longer attended that certain church, but when you stick it out with ministers they are going to hold you accountable. If you come up with some kooky idea (I'm not saying you have kooky ideas, just trying to build my case) and the other Brothers are going to want to inquire to how this kooky idea was formulated. If they can't see your idea under the light of scripture they may not want to authorize your actions.
You see my Brother; it all comes down to being able to have men tell you NO!
That's the real test, and if you can submit to a NO decision and solider through it because the rest of the crew saw that what you were doing was not going to help you or the group, then they may try to have you understand why your decision was wrong.
Human nature wants to be a one man show, and almost all great causes where started by a man having some vision, but that vision will fall flat if that man doesn't have a group that will HELP him make his vision jell.
We can talk all day long how God TOLD us to do X, Y, and Z, but if you don't have a group to help you make all that come to together you are only twisting in the wind. With support and accountability you can move and build mountains, but outlaws and cowboys end up messing up the lives of everyone they come in contact with, and people get really mad at those who preach to them about accountability to Jesus Christ who is unseen when they themselves cannot be accountable to people that they CAN SEE.
Church hoppers and church stoppers don't make good ministers because they were never able to hold down a job. This makes their résumé look real shabby. Now before you think I speaking of a secular job, I want to say that I am not speaking of secular work, but the work of Christ. If we cannot even get stable in a church setting or if every church we set a foot in we can't get OUR act together to work with the ministry. Then we need to look at ourselves first. After listening to a man tell me how he wants to win the world and can't even work with a pastor, ministers, elder, or deacons in getting under a vision with a group of people, I can't really believe that the individual who yearns to be in the ministry will do much of anything.
When we become our own pastor, we have NO pastor, we might make big proclamations that we only follow Jesus and that He tells us what we should do and that we ONLY follow the Bible, but every cult on the planet does that. We need to be around men who are NOT going to support every idea that flows through the portals of our mind.
I want to leave this discussion with this one thought; no man is a Pastor, Evangelist, Prophet, Apostle, and Teacher without people to work with. If a man is called his calling will make room for him. I have walked into churches where the preacher just had his family and who he had been preaching to his family for 12 years without new converts coming in. Well, guess what? The men who say that they are ministers, who have no fruit of babies being born again, can't really say they are ministers. They may be called of God, (please don't get me wrong), but they are doing themselves a great injustice, because they will not get men to work with them to make the vision work.
Now there are those who have as much right to be in a pulpit as Pee Wee Herman, and they eventually make shipwreck of themselves and their families. We should hope and pray that those individuals are few, sadly they are not.
Lord bless you Brother Rico and I hope you consider all I have said to you and I hope you pray futher about this issue. I said it as a friend to a friend, and wish you all the very best.
The Lord love your heart.
In Jesus name
Brother Benincasa
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