"The Giant Sucking Sound"

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You really have an issue, my boy you need to get some teaching, and tonight I'm not into this.

I have a ton of teaching in a lot of different things, you'd probably be surprised all the things I've studied...

13 years in a church?

Yes, Jesus, in comparison to other things, didn't preach that much about the infilling of the spirit and definately not about it as we preach it...

yes, Jesus preached power from God and that is the Holy Spirit, but he preached love and kindness and respect for others a lot more than he ever preached about the Spirit...

So, you teach a Jesus who was a very good Boy Scout?

Hey, that's what the Bible says, you can mock it all you want, but that doesn't change that Jesus' actual sermons to people were about love and charity and giving...

What good does it do that you do all the gifts of the spirit that you have all the power in heaven, if you don't have love??? I believe Paul said something like that.... and we seem to have forgotten it along the way...

Jesus taught and Paul carried it to the entire Roman world, they weren't Baptists, nor were they flaming liberals.

Yes, they were flaming liberals... should tell you something about what we should be... We should be at the forefront of loving people, of accepting people, of helping people regardless of thier race, sexual orientation, class status, or religion...

If a Muslim is starving on the streets of Iraq WE the People of God should be working to help him get food, even if he never accepts the gospel, we should still be working to get him food.

This isn't about just saving people and making it to an otherworldly heaven, this is also suppose to be about making this life HERE ON EARTH like heaven...

Are you for real? Some of these MEN are called ministers would you like to take that into consideration? Tell me are you lead by God? How many Bible studies have you given non-Christians this week or the week before? You know something didn't I say I wasn't going to dialogue with you?

See, this is where the talking down starts... You know nothing about me, you don't know my name outside of "larry" because I"ve used that as my nick before... You don't know the situation I'm in, the life I'm living, or the place I'm at, but yet you judge me somehow based upon some outward number of things I'm doing...

Your righteousness is as filthy rags, evangelist, I believe that's in the Bible, too, you should open it up yourself once in a while...

As is "the last shall be first and the first shall be last"... So have fun exalting yourself and telling yourself you are better, because in the end, it won't be you who God exalts because of your attitude...

and, yes, those men are ministers, and that is great and I respect them. But that doesn't mean thier word is infallible or gospel. They can (and did) make mistakes (and I'm not even saying the tv rule was a mistake... I'm just saying because they are human, they did make mistakes, period, I believe that's in the Bible, too)

13 years in the church? You want to try the above again? Listen, I'm not going to post to you, because you need to dig yourself. Anyone who knows my record will tell you that I rarely tell anyone that I will not correspond with them. I never leave a discussion no matter how obnoxious they are. I just want to try extra hard not to get banned for life. If you would happen to take the time to shut off your computer and read your Bible you will find in the Book of Genesis that God banned Adam and Eve outright from the access of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Now I am amazed that you can climb my tree with such brass and make statements that are totally out in left field. Go in peace, and I will try to keep in mind not to answer any of your posts. Sound fair enough?

Yes, 13 years in the church in 3 different youth groups, all with the same problems, all with the same dying people who only know rules and youth camp highs and don't actually know Christ because no one ever gave them that chance...

Yes, God banned Adam and Eve from the garden, but you need to open your Bible up again, brother, God didn't ban them because of the tree of knowledge of good and evil... He banned them so they couldn't get to the tree of life...

and I know you are amazed that I think I can be on your level, I stated that in the last post. That you are arrogant and full of yourself and you think because you can "do things" that you are somehow better than me... All your post did was prove me right.

and you can not answer me, that doesn't change a word of what I said or how correct it was. I hope God blesses you brother, and changes your heart, because it really needs it, whether you are willing to admit it or not...

Yes he preached TO the Areopagus, and he didn't join them. Big difference.

Who said anything about converting to another religion??? TV isn't religion, bro, its a tool. In fact, the electronics in a television set are almost identical to the electronics in your computer monitor... Isn't that pretty amazing???

Even more amazing is I can order all the cable packages I want and never get an ounce of porn unless I order premium channels in those packages or above those packages...

But I can get millions of hours worth of porn movies, billions and probably trillians of porn pictures, and trillions of words of pornographic stories off of the Internet FOR FREE, at the click of a mouse...

Now you tell me which is more evil, me ordering www.skyangel.com where there isn't even a non-Christian channel on the network, or me having a high-speed connection to the Internet where I can stream high-definition porn for free anytime I want it...

It's not wires and tubes, just as a gun is not steel and gunpowder, it's more than that, the content is trash and the advertising is commercialism to the max, it's the wrong road.

You really don't get it, do you? Yes, there is commercialism and trash and advertisint and other things that are wrong...

But just like a gun has tons of uses that are good (hunting, defending oneself, one's family, and one's country, having fun shooting clay pigeons or targets, etc.), so does TV have tons of uses that are good. What you need is moderation and self-control, not rules and bans... That's the Biblical way of doing things...