The Difference between PCI, PAJC and the New Heritage False Claiming Posers

[James Griffin]

Originally Posted by timlan2057

I'm not interested in arguing doctrine.

But historically - AND concerning the historical whitewash of the UPC's history ramrodded by Bernard and Hall - Dan is correct here.

The entire panorama of UPC history can be summed up in a conversation between L. H. Hardwick and J. T. Pugh after a coference sermon by a radical hardliner pounding the pulpit over "tongues or hell", "uncut hair on women or hell", etc. etc.

Pugh could not understand Hardwick's less-than-hysterical-enthusiasm over the sermon and said in a rather bewildered tone to him: "But it is our heritage!"

Hardwick replied: "It's YOUR heritage. MY brethren did not believe it."

And like it or not, Hardwick, Gurley, Goss, Yadon, Stairs etc. were there at the beginning and had just as much or more to do with the foundation and establishment of the United Pentecostal Church as did their more radical counterparts - the whitewash job by Bernard and Hall notwithstanding.

I regret that NFCF sank beneath the waves if only because I put forth what I feel is a quite valid theory that the doctrine of "completely uncut hair on women or hell" was initially pushed by Murray E. Burr in the 1950s and was virtually unheard of before then.

And turnabout at times is fair play.

C. H. Yadon was a man's man. His Christianity was in stark contrast to this "southern good ole boy gentleman's club" type that I grew sick of my final years in the pentecostal ministry and manifests itself in this "pack mentality" that gets played out on message boards like this.

He was a founding member of the United Pentecostal Church; spending 48 of his 67 years in the ministry with a UPC fellowship card in his pocket.

He built churches and districts. He was the patriarch of what was arguably the most prominent family in the United Pentecostal Church as far as ministers of achievement, perhaps rivalled only by the the name "Glass."

He lived by the tenets of the merger, that men would not contend for their personal views to the disunity of the body.

And in 1992, around the time of his 85th birthday and around the time his companion of 65 years passed away, he was thrown out of the United Pentecostal Church like a piece of old trash.

Yeah, yeah ... some will say he could have stayed.

Nathaniel Urshan even asked him after the "Affirmation Statement" business meeting: "You're going to stay with us, aren't you Brother Charley?"

C. H. Yadon was a man of principle.

He didn't look for loopholes.

My take on what just happened in Tampa.

Big deal.

So the UPC decides to climb into the 20th century when we're in the 21st. It just heightens the comedy that, as a 50 year old man, this organization is still arguing over what they argued over in Indianapolis when I was a 19 year old senior in Bible college.

But back to Yadon, who was a mentor of mine:

He of course would never have sought revenge.

In fact, here was his reaction to the aftermath of the "Westburg Resolution":



And - again despite the attempted whitewash: what he told Thomas Fudge was this: "What they are telling you what we believed is NOT what we believed."

Anyway, my "spirit" is not as good as Yadon's.

The fact that 15 years after the Westburg resolution, that some of these same radicals who forced men like Yadon out are now being forced out of the United Pentecostal Church:

From that I personally take a bit of satisfaction.

Well Tim if your chess has improved as much as your articulation the last 31 years you may finally stand a chance. Look me up sometime would love to reconnect.

Well spoken.