BAM!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Adino]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

There you go. Hey Dan and Adino are these baptisms valid?

Valid baptisms?

Valid declarations of faith? Valid declarations of new Christians? Valid moments of demarcation in the lives of the baptizands? Valid acceptance into the Christian community?

Of course the baptisms were "valid."

In what I saw of the video the whacked preacher, though he allowed his abuse of glossolalia to get in the way of the practice and turn things into a monkey show (btw, I think he only accentuates what really happens to a lesser degree in Apostolic churches around the world), kept coming back to the traditional triune invocation which rightly incorporates a call of attention to the Son (Jesus Christ) as the object of the baptizand's faith.

While I certainly disagree with much of his protocol and views on charismata, the baptisms were indeed valid declarations of faith, of new Christians, of a demarcation in the lives of the baptismal candidates, and of acceptance into the Christian community at large.

Had there been no attempt to call attention to the Son of God I would agree that the baptisms were invalid because they would not have performed the purpose of the ritual in rightfully identifying the candidate with the Savior.

While I personally believe all baptisms should be performed in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ because Scripture calls for men to have faith in God through Christ, it cannot be denied that the triune invocation does call on the Son of God and if attention was drawn to Christ (the Son) in these baptisms they were indeed 'effective' in accomplishing baptism's purpose.