Baptism, DOES IT REALLY WASH AWAY SIN??

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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I agree w / the following writer as to the who, when and where the blood is applied:

http://www.inchristalone.org/WhenBloodAppliedpt4.html


To simplify, to bring atonement for the nation of Israel, the High Priest Aaron, on the Day of Atonement had to take the blood of the sacrifice into the Most Holy Place (the place representing God’s throne room) and sprinkle it upon the mercy seat (the place of atonement). This is an Old Covenant picture of what Jesus Christ does to achieve atonement under the New Covenant. It also gives a graphic answer to the next three questions: “Who applies the Blood?,” “Where is the blood applied?” and “When is the blood applied?”

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Who Applies the Blood?

We know that Jesus is the “Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world” (John 1:29,36). It is His blood that is shed for the forgiveness of our sins (Ephesians 1:7; 1 Peter 1:18; 1 John 1:7; Revelation 1:5). We are justified by the blood of Jesus (Romans 5:9). But, Jesus is also the Great High Priest who applies the blood (Hebrew 9:7-12). He shed His blood on Golgotha and thereby applied it by dying on the Cross (Colossians 1:20; Hebrews 13:12). The effect of the blood is the effect of Jesus’ death (Hebrews 9:16-18). Because of His death in our place, he suffered the penalty of sin(1 Peter 2:24). But, because He was perfect in obedience, he cannot remain dead (Acts 2:24-28). God justifies Jesus, by raising Him from the dead (1 Timothy 3:16). Then Christ is taken up into Heaven by God, because He had finished His purpose on the earth (John 16:10-28; John 19:30; Hebrews 10:12-13). Now, as the ascended Lord of the Church, he acts as our Great High Priest. He ever lives to make intercession for us (Hebrews 2:17-18; 7:25-27). He presents his own sacrifice eternally to the Father on our behalf (Revelation 13:8). It is Jesus, the Great High Priest who applies the blood.

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Where is the Blood Applied?

There is a sense that the pattern of activities performed by the high priest under the Tabernacle/Temple system are fulfilled in Christ’s priestly ministry. The High Priest entered the Holy of Holies on the Day of Atonement, bearing the blood of the congregational sacrifice. There he would sprinkle the blood of the bull on the mercy seat or place of atonement to reconcile Israel to God. Jesus the true and only Sacrifice, the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, ascended into Heaven as the Great High Priest, bearing His own blood on Himself, because He was the true mercy seat (hilasmos). Paul says, “Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;” (Romans 3:25 KJV).

The word “propitiation” is hilasterion. It is the word translated “mercyseat” in Hebrews 9:5. Jesus is called the mercy seat, the hilasterion, the propitiation, the place of atonement. There is no greater place to “apply” the blood than on Jesus himself. Jesus, as the Great High Priest, applies the blood. He uses the Cross like the priests hyssop and sprinkles the people with salvation. Jesus, makes the Cross the seat of mercy since he is the propitiation or the mercy seat. This is where the blood is applied.

This is the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

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When is the Blood Applied?

Rather than ask “When is the blood applied?” we should ask when was the penalty for sin paid. The Bible teaches us that it was paid by Jesus when he died. It also tells us where Jesus died – He died on the Cross. It is when Jesus died that the blood was applied. Hebrews is emphatic that Jesus presents himself as an atoning sacrifice once.

For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another – He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. (Hebrews 9:24-28 NKJV) This means his death takes place at a particular moment of history. He died once. There was only one sacrifice for all time. Thus, his blood was shed once, for all time. It was applied once for all time two thousand years ago outside the city wall of Jerusalem on the Cross of Calvary. It only needs to be applied once because “by a single offering he has perfected for all time those who are being sanctified.” (Hebrews 10:14 ESV). The blood was applied once for all time on the Cross. This one shedding of Jesus blood is sufficient to take away the sins of the whole world, and more, to cleanse the Heaven itself (Hebrews 9:24).

Jesus as the Lamb and as the High Priest presented his blood – His proof of death on the Cross. As he hung on the Roman stake with his blood running down his body and onto the ground He was presenting his offering. It was upon His death that Jesus cried, “It is finished!” The wrath of God was satisfied. The penalty was paid. The veil of separation was rent. All this happened because Jesus died for us. And Jesus’ blood is the proof of it.

Dan thanks for your repsonse. In it had the comment:

"Rather than ask “When is the blood applied?” we should ask when was the penalty for sin paid."

Though this is true and it will lead to the end result as would pointingto when is remission etc.... In reality all the above really never say WHEN according to scripture it is applied.

I am looking for specific scripture on this. I have discussed this with many teachers from seminary school from multiple persuasions. They all pretty much admit scripture does not give a direct time.

That is until I point out this one little thing.

What is the parallel or equal reference to blood.

Remember without shedding of blood there can be no remission.

Again there is a very precise answer though somewhat veiled but not really.