Is God Free to Not Chose to Love and Save All...?

Originally Posted by Falla39

Dear Bro. Chan,

Are you a father? Do you have children? If not I can understand

why you would not relate to the 'love of a father toward his son".

And there are those who cannot relate to a loving father because

their earthly father was not a good example of a loving father. My

heart goes out to those who have not had a loving father and mother

here on earth. But to whom much is given shall much be required. In

other words, we are our brother's or sister's keeper. We must keep

them (as brothers and sisters) from being so overcome that they will

despair! Paul could have no doubt become overwhelmed with grief from

his past of having persecuted and consenting to some of their death.

Imagine the impact it had on a young man named Saul of Tarsus, as he

stood nearby, watching as Stephen was being stoned, before his eyes.

After he was transformed by the Light (Jesus), I am sure he felt he owed

a debt he could not pay, but Jesus had already paid a debt HE did not

owe!! Paul no doubt would possibly have become overcome by his past

had not it have been for the physican, Luke and his friend and counselor,

Barnabas, son of consolation! Barbabas consoled Paul as his friend.


I wonder have I done my best for JESUS,
who died upon the cruel tree.
To think of His great sacrifice at Calvary,
I know my Lord expects the best from me.

How many are the lost that I have lifted,
How many are the souls I've helped to free,
I wonder have I done my best for JESUS.
When He has done so much for me.

Blessings,

Falla39

I call your attention to Romans 9:12-14, "It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid." Note that GOD SAID "Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated" (see also Malachi 1:2-4). Your post is an attempt to argue against what GOD SAID. You cannot deny what GOD SAID unless you are a traitor to God's kingdom.

Then, there are the things Solomon said that God hates "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren." So, let's see. God hates the proud, the liars, the murderers, people who devise wicked things, people who are quick to run to mischief, false witnesses, and those who sow discord among the brethren.

God said through the prophet Jeremiah, "Mine heritage is unto me as a lion in the forest; it crieth out against me: therefore have I hated it."

There was NOTHING in what I posted that would REASONABLY lead to your conclusion that I don't "relate to the 'love of a father toward his son'" and I really don't see why you insisted on posting what you posted. If you're thinking that my post was in response to the one before it, know that if I had been responding to that post then I would have quoted it.

Of course, this notion that "Oh, God loves everybody" is a false doctrine that comes from the very pit of Hell (not the city in Michigan). Humans are born ENEMIES of God. We are all born dead in trespasses and sins. There is nothing within any of us to cause God to love us. That God loves even one human being is solely out of the kindness of His own heart. Again, it was GOD who said HE hated Esau. For a time, GOD hated the nation of Israel. God hates the proud, the liars, the murderers, people who devise wicked things, people who are quick to run to mischief, false witnesses, and those who sow discord among the brethren.

How many people have been sent to the lake of fire through this kind of vile, effeminate, "God loves everybody" preaching going on in so many chruches today?

Given that God specifically said there were those He hated, John 3:16 clearly does not mean that God loves every human being that was ever born; so, it can only mean that God's love is extended only to certain people, i.e. His elect - the "whosoever believeth."