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Old 11-12-2008, 06:53 AM
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Re: If Physical Death is Final?

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I see you you responded to my post, but ignored the main thrust of my post, which is... if you were to agree with Antipas' statement that if something "terrible" is done, it cant be God,because God doesn't do "terrible" things... who defines what's terrible? you and I , or God?

And... is God limited to man's mental boundaries and perception of what is just, or does he set the boundaries himself, according to the counsel of his own will and his own wisdom?
It's not all that simple. I'm a father...I've had to correct my son, and for him it was terrible. However, temporary remedial punishment is in now way comparable to endless torture and torments. God may do terrible things to correct mankind. However, that doesn't compare to the idea of God inflicting eternal torture on souls. We're all guilty of sin. None of us are more worthy of punishment than any one else. The vast majority who will be punished by God in Hell were simply born in the wrong place at the wrong time and never heard the Gospel. How can sentencing them to eternal torture serve any purpose? How does it remedy the situation? It is written...

Revelation 21: 4-5.
And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

God said that there is coming a time when there shall be no more death, sorrow, crying, or pain. That's a promise from the Lord. If there is an eternal Hell...there is eternal death, sorrow, crying, and pain for most. Only a sliver of mankind experience the blessedness of Heaven...the Savior of the world who died for the whole world failed and the promise of no more pain in the new creation fails.

How do we who propose eternal torments answer these issues?
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