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Old 11-24-2008, 07:10 PM
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Re: JAKES Announces New CBS Talk show in '09!!!

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I'm not "avoiding the point", Prax. I made my point.
You're the one, in responding to what I originally posted, who's trying to take a part of what I said to make it into your own point.

Let me be clear on one thing: I'm not particularly a fan of either one of these two. But although Jakes doesn't preach Acts 2:38 as taught in most Apostolic/UPC churches etc, he does teach Holy Ghost baptism speaking with tongues, and he does teach baptize in Jesus name. He's A LOT closer to biblical truth than Billy Graham is.

It's interesting that you're spending all this time bashing Jakes, while elevating Billy Graham, as if Graham is supposed to be some anointed minister of the New Testament gospel. Feel free to do a little research on this.... Perhaps if you truly understood what Billy Graham has taught over the years, you might not think as hightly of him as you do.
You're "point" avoids my point. I wasn't arguing Graham preaches the truth. I was pointing out Graham preaches a soteriological message everytime he goes to the pulpit, that you disagree with that message is not the issue. That Jakes is closer doctrinally is also way way WAY off course of the point I was making and now...after 3 attempts, I can see you're just not even trying to get it.
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