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Old 05-13-2009, 07:14 PM
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Re: The Second Coming of Christ

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Originally Posted by afp1996 View Post
I disagree that the rapture and the resurrection happened at the same time and both happen at the second coming of Christ. At least in the way you believe it.

1Thessalonians 4:13-17

Verses 13-16 speak of the dead and their resurrection. Verse 17 shows that those that were not dead at the time of the resurrection, who were alive past the resurrection would not be subject to the grave as their dead counterparts were but would be caught up to meet the Lord. When? 2Cor 5 says it will be realized when we put off this earthy house.

1Corinthians 15:27-50

Lays out that Jesus is the first fruits. Therefore the only visible proof of the resurrection needed.

1Corinthians 15:50-53

1)Says the physical body cannot inherit the Kingdom.
2)Those after the resurrection would not go to the grave. The prison for bodiless souls.
3)This would happen at the last trump.

1Corinthians 15:54-57

Clearly shows this would happen at the removal of the law system. AD 70 Coming and Judgment did just that with the Temple removed. This happened in Matt 24, which is a direct link to Daniel 12. Matt 24 has no gap in it's completion as you have failed to show one, and this all would happen within one generation. Jesus' generation per his own words. From the resurrection onward, with hell or the grave emptied, no one would go there again. For the Saved, the grave has no victory, and death has no sting.

Dan 12:2
(2) And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

The change is being caught up so that we do not see the grave. The last trump sealed our future in eternity.
Word Count: 296

BTW Remember it's one question, please don't expect the other person to address a dozen verses with a word count of 300. This is question and answer.

Jason it's your question again. After Afp answers he will then ask 2 questions
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