When did I EVER say that oneness folks have it all figured out?
In fact, I said,
specifically that there are oneness people who are really "twoness", and that's just one faction...we can leave off Branhamites, divine fleshers, and other twists on doctrine.
I don't really get the "whining" comment.
I have no "line" to peddle, Baron.
I have no agenda behind stating that there are some trinitarians who believe in 3 separate and distinct "beings" or deities in the godhead, and additionally believe that those 3 eternally "co-existed."
I have a husband who was saved
from a trinitarian church and baptized in Jesus' name and he knew people who believed both as well. He had a Sunday School teacher who believed in oneness doctrine (and taught in a trinitarian church), and she was the first one who introduced him to the truth. His dad is so dogmatic, that he "disowned" Jeff for awhile, told him he'd rather he was part of the Mormons or Jehovah's witnesses than "Jesus-only" and I didn't meet his parents until our wedding, about three years after Jeff was converted.
The way some of you talk, there was absolutely no reason for my husband to convert.
My mother was converted from being a Baptist; she was praying and read
I Timothy 3:16, which opened her eyes to a new understanding of God.
Hey, if it doesn't matter how it's explained, if we all really believe the same thing, then don't try to convert any trinitarians to oneness doctrine or being baptized in Jesus' name.
But...maybe that's your take already.
I've spoken to a lot of trinitarians, have a lot of family members who are trinitarians, and have friends who are trinitarian. MOST of them say they believe in one God, but in that group, many of them still express their understanding in a way that reflects the "separate & distinct but unified" idea. SOME of them express specifically that they believe in three gods. Additionally, I've sat in the room while my Dad argued with trinitarians for HOURS, and I know that many of them do believe in 3, while others will not only say they believe in 1, but will also state that baptism in Jesus' name is probably the way the apostles baptized. For some reason, some of them won't follow through on that profession, either because they don't think it matters, or because they think either mode is equally biblical.
I'm just stating my true experience. I know that some people put words in other folks' mouths. They deliberately confuse them and then say, "Aha! You really DO believe in 3 gods." I'm surprised that you would put me in that agenda-driven disingenuous group.
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