Is Jesus Sitting on a Throne in His Flesh?

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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Brother Blume the first part of pneumatikos is pneuma which means breath, spirit, or wind. It means spiritual, and can be applied to define men, or things that are spiritual.

Right.

If we call Brother Blume a spiritual man, it is not something physical on him, but something that would be in him.

I think it would rather mean a person was spiritually inclined and even thought from the perspective of the spirit. As you say, it does not deal with what he is materially made of. So the SPIRITUAL BODY would not be a body materially made of spirit rather than flesh. The IKOS suffix makes it an issue of what it is driven by.

If spiritual is being contrasted from natural, and the root is spirit -- something invisible -- then it is not something non-physical contrasted from something physical. Natural life is as invisible as spiritual life is.

Part of the rational mind, and not something we can inspect by materialism. Spirit/pneuma means something that is invisible, and unseen. God is a spirit, those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and truth. God is unseen.

Right. But the invisible Spirit empowers the physical power rather than nature so it is called a spiritual body. The Spirit is unseen. But if that Spirit guides a person, that person is spiritual. Like Vincent said, "Spiritual body (σώμα πνευματικόν)" is "A body in which a divine πνεῦμα spirit supersedes the ψυχή soul."

It is not saying a spiritual body is invisible, but rather is driven by that which is invisible.