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12-29-2010, 07:54 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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Originally Posted by notofworks
Well, you're gonna have to go back and read the opening post. The bible is directly quoted and the verse ends with, ".....the cross of Christ alone can save."
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Read my opening statement here. I not only read your opening post but I also quoted it.
As I said, that is not what the Word of God said.
Rosa is evidence enough that the cross alone does not save. You should not be a party to making the Word of God a lie. Not good.
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12-29-2010, 08:01 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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Originally Posted by Apprehended
Read my opening statement here. I not only read your opening post but I also quoted it.
As I said, that is not what the Word of God said.
Rosa is evidence enough that the cross alone does not save. You should not be a party to making the Word of God a lie. Not good.
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Ok dude, you're losing me. It can't more clear than this:
"Notice what large letters I use as I write these closing words in my own handwriting. Those who are trying to force you to be circumcised are doing it for just one reason. They don't want to be persecuted for teaching that the cross of Christ alone can save."
Galatians 6:11-12 NLT
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12-29-2010, 08:11 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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Ok dude, you're losing me. It can't more clear than this:
"Notice what large letters I use as I write these closing words in my own handwriting. Those who are trying to force you to be circumcised are doing it for just one reason. They don't want to be persecuted for teaching that the cross of Christ alone can save."
Galatians 6:11-12 NLT
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You should know better than to use such a corrupted version of the bible. The devil himself could not have been any more skillful in his infernal work of destroying the faith than this less than 15 year old perversion. Not even the American Standard Version or the New International Version uses such vile language in depicting the cross of Christ.
Just how many ways would you like to have your faith destroyed? Would a Satanic Bible accomplish the goal any better? Not likely. At least, that bible does not purport to be Holy Writ while this corrupted version does.
A question.
Why not get a good Greek Lexicon or at least stay with the more standard versions of the Holy Word. The best is the KJV or the NKJV.
Nevertheless, even if we were to use this corrupted version exclusively, knowing that the Word of God will not contradict itself, it can be shown that this interpretation of vs. 12 is corrupted.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/nlt2.html
As I said...
Rosa has not been affected by the cross alone in the least. Evidence enough that this version is a lie.
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12-29-2010, 08:12 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
So where ya been Apprehended?
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12-29-2010, 08:16 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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So where ya been Apprehended?
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Been looking for you, dude.
Every time I go to Houston knocking on your door to collect on that stake dinner you promised me, I hear a male voice behind a door saying, "tell 'im I'm not home."
When I go peeking through the windows for you, you seem to be hid in the closet.
One of these days...
mark my word...one of these days....
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12-29-2010, 08:18 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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Been looking for you, dude.
Every time I go to Houston knocking on your door to collect on that stake dinner you promised me, I hear a male voice behind a door saying, "tell 'im I'm not home."
When I go peeking through the windows for you, you seem to be hid in the closet.
One of these days...
mark my word...one of these days.... 
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If I got you a stake dinner it would be in lieu of a reed or a rod ...
But I do owe you a steak dinner, my friend.
You need to hold me to it ....
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12-29-2010, 08:23 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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Originally Posted by Apprehended
You should know better than to use such a corrupted version of the bible. The devil himself could not have been any more skillful in his infernal work of destroying the faith than this less than 15 year old perversion. Not even the American Standard Version or the New International Version uses such vile language in depicting the cross of Christ.
Just how many ways would you like to have your faith destroyed? Would a Satanic Bible accomplish the goal any better? Not likely. At least, that bible does not purport to be Holy Writ while this corrupted version does.
A question.
Why not get a good Greek Lexicon or at least stay with the more standard versions of the Holy Word. The best is the KJV or the NKJV.
Nevertheless, even if we were to use this corrupted version exclusively, knowing that the Word of God will not contradict itself, it can be shown that this interpretation of vs. 12 is corrupted.
http://www.bible-researcher.com/nlt2.html
As I said...
Rosa has not been affected by the cross alone in the least. Evidence enough that this version is a lie.
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Oh, ok. I was wondering if that might be your angle. I'm not interested in anyone's trashing of the New Living Translation, which is one of the finest works of literature and source of spiritual enrichment I've ever held in my hand, as well as one of, if not the most accurate translation we have.
I didn't even read the rest of the post. I've already heard all the anti-NLT rhetoric.
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12-29-2010, 08:27 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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Oh, ok. I was wondering if that might be your angle. I'm not interested in anyone's trashing of the New Living Translation, which is one of the finest works of literature and source of spiritual enrichment I've ever held in my hand, as well as one of, if not the most accurate translation we have.
I didn't even read the rest of the post. I've already heard all the anti-NLT rhetoric.
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OK...
That's fine. Use any corrupted version as you would like. Let's discuss your premise concerning the cross alone using your beloved version.
Question...
Are there any contradictions concerning the cross in your beloved version.
If you say no, we need to discuss that to disclose whatever there may or may not be.
If you say yes, the discussion is over.
So, what is the answer?
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12-29-2010, 08:40 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
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OK...
That's fine. Use any corrupted version as you would like. Let's discuss your premise concerning the cross alone using your beloved version.
Question...
Are there any contradictions concerning the cross in your beloved version.
If you say no, we need to discuss that to disclose whatever there may or may not be.
If you say yes, the discussion is over.
So, what is the answer?
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I understand where you're going with this and can probably recite your position as well as I can my own. So just go ahead and make your point.
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12-29-2010, 08:44 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save
Let's begin...
What is your definition of the cross?
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