Education Reformers Needed

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by notofworks

When I think about some of the classes and some of the instructors when I attended bible school, it's obvious that the job isn't getting done. They were doing their best, no doubt, but it's SO far behind the "Dallas Theological Seminary" types.....well, they're not in the same galaxy.

Are you kidding? Is this what people think is sound Bible teaching? Dallas Theological Seminary? They teach false doctrine on every foundation issue. They paid thousands of dollars to learn false Protestant/Evangelical doctrine.

Then they charge others to teach them the same heresies.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Are you kidding? Is this what people think is sound Bible teaching? Dallas Theological Seminary? They teach false doctrine on every foundation issue. They paid thousands of dollars to learn false Protestant/Evangelical doctrine.

Then they charge others to teach them the same heresies.

For the sake of argument, sure they are all false teachers, teaching false doctrines on their way to a burning hell...that wasn't the issue though. The issue was how well they teach not what doctrines they teach

[coadie]

Originally Posted by notofworks

When I think about some of the classes and some of the instructors when I attended bible school, it's obvious that the job isn't getting done. They were doing their best, no doubt, but it's SO far behind the "Dallas Theological Seminary" types.....well, they're not in the same galaxy.

Did you attend Dallas Theiological Seminary?

Even the top Ivy League schools have famous profs leading classes that are not gifted in teaching. Even worse, signing up under a big name at Stanford for example no where means that he will
"visit" the classroom more than 1 or two times a semester.

Oneness are far behind in that they have no full 4 year colleges that also have Masters and Doctoral programs. AOG has several schools in Springfield but I don't know if any doctoral degrees are offered.

[coadie]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

For the sake of argument, sure they are all false teachers, teaching false doctrines on their way to a burning hell...that wasn't the issue though. The issue was how well they teach not what doctrines they teach

False teachers
We also have non false teachers that have poor teaching skills.
We have poor student study habits
We have students limited in cognitive abilities in the areas of synthesis and knowledge.

Within many major universities, some colleges are much better than others when it comes to delivering significant graduates.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

For the sake of argument, sure they are all false teachers, teaching false doctrines on their way to a burning hell...that wasn't the issue though. The issue was how well they teach not what doctrines they teach

I would not want to pay thousands of dollars to relocate, thousands more to be taught false doctrine just so I could be taught by someone suave and sophisticated.

Just for arguements sake of course.

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

The Church is a place to learn. Matter of fact it is THE place to learn. If a Pastor is not able to do this he is not a New Testament Pastor.

Amen! Sadly, our types of circles simply have never placed an emphasis on Bible Teaching.

[Jeffrey]

MTD, you're missing the point.

The whole idea of this thread supports equipping teachers. Somehow you have these competitive division that teachers somehow learn things about ancient languages, culture, the life and times of Jesus, canonology, exegesis, pastoral counseling, church history --- all by going to the library (and reading from some false doctrine crony you somehow have a hard time with).

Those dummies at Dallas Theological Seminary have offered a lifetime of theological scholarship that has been taken advantage of by every Oneness Apostolic Pentecostal Born-Again Believer in Jesus Name. So it's quite hypocritical to take advantage of the labor and scholarship of others and then say you don't support formal scholarship.

Elders should be apt to teach. The idea of formal education does not take away from that role, it reinforces it.

[Jeffrey]

And if we go down that road again of "well, the disciples didn't go to Bible School," just pause a second and really think about your reply.

[notofworks]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Are you kidding? Is this what people think is sound Bible teaching? Dallas Theological Seminary? They teach false doctrine on every foundation issue. They paid thousands of dollars to learn false Protestant/Evangelical doctrine.

Then they charge others to teach them the same heresies.

Sigh. I'm trying to strategize here and think of a way to say something you could comprehend and nothing is coming to mind. Maybe you could open a school and teach everyone the right way. I'm sure your door is being pounded down by people wanting the truth.

[Jeffrey]

Wait... does MTD not believe his theology falls into the Protestant/Evangelical genre?

Let only the person with a perfect theology, who has figured everything out (without exposing his mind to different opinions and ideas, only by prayer and the Spirit) teach others. haaaaaaaa...