Christian Perspectives Concerning the Law

TGBTG · #1 01-11-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

As I said there are elements of Law that are typological of the reality we have simply by being in Christ, like the feasts. We actually keep the feasts of Israel in the truest sense, of which those feasts were only a shadow. For example, Jesus is my sabbath! It is not a day but an eternal state.

And any curse that was issued by Law was fulfilled in Christ and taken for us, so we need not obey certain laws to not be cursed, but to remain in Christ. For example, tithing was meant to keep a person from a curse. But the cross caused Christ to become a curse for us. That means we cannot replace the cross with tithing. Pay tithes to be blessed. But not to avoid a curse.

Amen!!! I personally like to say:
Pay tithes in the OT
Give tithes in the NT

Socialite · #2 01-11-2011, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

Amen!!! I personally like to say:
Pay tithes in the OT
Give tithes in the NT

Well, I'd go beyond that and say GIVE (not pay tithes because the entire system for tithing is nowhere near similar to what was expected in scripture). And I don't give to be blessed. I give because that's a summary of much of my life. He gave so generously, when I was so undeserving, so I give to others generously. It's a way of worship that mirrors the cross. It all goes back to the Gospel

TGBTG · #3 01-11-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Well, I'd go beyond that and say GIVE (not pay tithes because the entire system for tithing is nowhere near similar to what was expected in scripture). And I don't give to be blessed. I give because that's a summary of much of my life. He gave so generously, when I was so undeserving, so I give to others generously. It's a way of worship that mirrors the cross. It all goes back to the Gospel

Yes, I agree it's all about giving. I was just trying to point that "pay" makes it legalistic while "give" makes it out of love.

Luke 6:30Give to every man that asketh of thee...

mfblume · #4 01-11-2011, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TGBTG

Amen!!! I personally like to say:
Pay tithes in the OT
Give tithes in the NT

Great way of saying it!

mfblume · #5 01-11-2011, 05:24 PM

Why can't things be discussed without belittlement of another's thoughts? Been happening A WHOLE LOT in the last several weeks.

We should be able to make a point, let others agree or disagree, and say why, and then leave it at that. Why the belittlement? Really turns me off.

mfblume · #6 01-11-2011, 05:29 PM

Galatians 3:10-14 KJV For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them. (11) But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. (12) And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them. (13) Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: (14) That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Notice that Paul is not talking about any distorted view of Law, but flatly speaks of Moses' law. Notice he quotes from Law, not some false set of texts, to support his claim that those under law are under a curse. This is similar to the statement he made in 2 Cor 3 saying those whose hearts are not turned to Christ, but are towards Moses and Law, are veiled. He is flatly speaking of Old Testament Law as God gave it. And one is under a curse when under that law.

He said Law is not of faith. Again, not distortion of law, but plain old and genuine law. Christ redeemed us from the actual law's curse.

Paul contrasted CURSE with BLESSING. Blessing cannot come upon those who adhere to Law, as they use self effort and will power to serve God. Law was never meant to take man on to righteousness. God knew it would not work with man. Law came to show us what sin was and to teach us a lesson that self effort, as the devil tempted the woman to live by, is futile.