False Doctrine Part 1 - How To Stop Sinning

[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

Grace is simply God showing favor and the result was the cross. That's it! has nothing to do with doing away with commandments but a removal of a covenant for a new. Grace is not your actions are not judged sin still and have a direct relationship to your standing. Grace does not negate law.
Grace does not allow sin to not be judged and still go to heaven without repenting.

Ok, I read up to page 7 and it took that long for anyone to mention grace, which I believe should be the foundation and proof for MB's comments.

When I read the blog, it further strengthened in my mind the misunderstanding and denial and absolute terror of what the Grace of God really is among the OPs. In order to understand the blog relative to Grace, we must consider that we are Spiritually bankrupt...there is no good in us...the actions of the flesh will never be glorified. Historically the conservatives called this notion greasy grace. Now why would they do that? Why the scarlet letter? Why the attititude? Because they don't understand the Grace of God.

This is not from MB, it is propaganda, it is culture, it is the same thing that hundreds of ministers, especially in the UPC and AMF would be able to write and it is preached all over the nation every week.

The Apostolic church has a brutal misunderstanding of the Grace of God....I am convinced more than ever these days.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by Carpenter

Ok, I read up to page 7 and it took that long for anyone to mention grace, which I believe should be the foundation and proof for MB's comments.

When I read the blog, it further strengthened in my mind the misunderstanding and denial and absolute terror of what the Grace of God really is among the OPs. In order to understand the blog relative to Grace, we must consider that we are Spiritually bankrupt...there is no good in us...the actions of the flesh will never be glorified. Historically the conservatives called this notion greasy grace. Now why would they do that? Why the scarlet letter? Why the attititude? Because they don't understand the Grace of God.

This is not from MB, it is propaganda, it is culture, it is the same thing that hundreds of ministers, especially in the UPC and AMF would be able to write and it is preached all over the nation every week.

The Apostolic church has a brutal misunderstanding of the Grace of God....I am convinced more than ever these days.

You are right.

The problem with failing to understand grace goes back to not understanding our own depravity. How sunk we are. How broken and lost. How ugly we are apart from the healing balm of the Cross.

[LUKE2447]

Originally Posted by Socialite

You are right.

The problem with failing to understand grace goes back to not understanding our own depravity. How sunk we are. How broken and lost. How ugly we are apart from the healing balm of the Cross.

I don't believe in total depravity. I would also say you miss the meaning of the cross and the distinctions of the covenants.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by LUKE2447

I don't believe in total depravity. I would also say you miss the meaning of the cross and the distinctions of the covenants.

Of course


So please describe to me what effect the fall had on you and I. And as you look back at the Story, please explain why a Savior King finally had to come himself.