Christian hostages murdered by Somali Pirates

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by pelathais

How about this? What if NATO, the UN or some other international coalition established themselves as the "Somali Port Authority." All ocean going vessels would be inspected in the ports (two or three ports at most) and licensed to fish or engage in commerce.

It is absolutely IMPERATIVE for the American government to respond.

We should not leave this incident as an example that emboldens those who do wish to do Americans harm.


America really needs to take the lead on this-- with or without the help of the international community.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

It is absolutely IMPERATIVE for the American government to respond.

We should not leave this incident as an example that emboldens those who do wish to do Americans harm.


America really needs to take the lead on this-- with or without the help of the international community.

The pirates didn't really "target" Americans. They targeted easy prey. In this case, the victims just happened to be Americans.

The President could "send a message" in some way that might discourage future pirates from attacking or keeping Americans once they have ascertained that their victims are indeed American. But there is no guarantee that any action would produce such an effect.

I like my "Port Authority" idea. Fast, friendly clearance of vessels going through the inspection. A merciless hail of 57 mm shells for those who fail to comply.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by pelathais

The pirates didn't really "target" Americans. They targeted easy prey. In this case, the victims just happened to be Americans.

The President could "send a message" in some way that might discourage future pirates from attacking or keeping Americans once they have ascertained that their victims are indeed American. But there is no guarantee that any action would produce such an effect.

I like my "Port Authority" idea. Fast, friendly clearance of vessels going through the inspection. A merciless hail of 57 mm shells for those who fail to comply.

In keeping with the subject of this thread, I stand behind my idea that the Christian response could involve violence and killing as we seek to address the situation that allowed this to happen in the first place.


You want to use the UN, I'd rather not.

However we both want something done.

Being Christian does not prohibit us from actively responding to these murders.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

In keeping with the subject of this thread, I stand behind my idea that the Christian response could involve violence and killing as we seek to address the situation that allowed this to happen in the first place.

You are right. At least I think you are right.

The "state" is given a "sword" by God and the state does not bear this sword "in vain." A case can be made for a just war. It may not always be persuasive in every circumstance, but the case can be made.

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

You want to use the UN, I'd rather not.

However we both want something done.

I don't "want" to use the UN - but we do give them billions of dollars a year - much of it for "peacekeeping." How about we get our money's worth? NATO would be a more reliable source. The most reliable? Well, doing the job ourselves. Maybe we could bill the UN for our peacekeeping?

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Being Christian does not prohibit us from actively responding to these murders.

I agree.

Romans 13:1-7; Ecclesiastes 3:3.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by pelathais

You are right. At least I think you are right.

The "state" is given a "sword" by God and the state does not bear this sword "in vain." A case can be made for a just war. It may not always be persuasive in every circumstance, but the case can be made.



I don't "want" to use the UN - but we do give them billions of dollars a year - much of it for "peacekeeping." How about we get our money's worth? NATO would be a more reliable source. The most reliable? Well, doing the job ourselves. Maybe we could bill the UN for our peacekeeping?



I agree.

Romans 13:1-7; Ecclesiastes 3:3.

Of course, there are some great discussions worth having on those listed scriptures above.