A.A. Allen

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Why do you guys feel the need to assassinate the character of a man you never knew. I know MANY people that worked directly with Brother Allen and testified that they never saw him drink and never smelled alcohol on him and NONE of them believed the stories that were put out in the media.
The Assemblies of God hated him because they could not control him. He left them and took thousands of A/G people out of the A/G and started independent churches.
The UPC and the oneness people went to his meetings for healing and help but joined in the character assassination because he was not controllable and did not do what they thought he should.
He did more for the Kingdom of God in ONE service than most churches do in a lifetime. He built an entire city - Miracle Valley, AZ in the desert and a Bible College. Many people still revere Evangelist A A Allen as a man before his time.
Many thousands were saved, healed & delivered under his ministry. Churches were planted across America and around the world wherever he went.
He was a soul winner and a man that loved people and was very generous with those that worked with him. More notable miracles were done under his ministry and he Fathered in the Gospel many Pastors and Evangelists that continue to preach Bible Deliverance & MIRACLES FOR TODAY!
I do not believe ONE report of his use of alcohol. I believe it was a lie to discredit his ministry.
He was a great man of Faith and operated in the power of Jesus Christ.

As I said before, my grandfather and his family knew him. I did not. And, I never heard my grandfather say a word about "alcohol" in relation to A.A. Allen or any other preacher for that matter. I learned about Bro. Allen's alcoholism from the official records of his death and autopsy.

For me, his use (or even his none-use) of alcohol doesn't really impact the things that God was doing and continues to do. It's just an unfortunate condition brought on by many factors, "sin" often NOT being the thing that gets one "hooked."

Given the incidences of alcoholism within my family, given the coincidence that my own great-uncle Allen (who could have passed as A.A. Allen's twin) died at his own hand in misery brought on in part by alcoholism... Add to that the fact that A.A. Allen was a "Cherokee half breed" as much of my forebears were. And, given that my own family hails from the same small town in Independence County, Arkansas... the details of this man's life do fascinate me.

[Praxeas]

Bro Strange knew him I think

[UnTraditional]

Originally Posted by pelathais

As I said before, my grandfather and his family knew him. I did not. And, I never heard my grandfather say a word about "alcohol" in relation to A.A. Allen or any other preacher for that matter. I learned about Bro. Allen's alcoholism from the official records of his death and autopsy.

Autopsies can be forged and stories can be made up. This would not be the first time something like this happened, and it will not be the last. As AB said, the world hates the ministry, and even some 'believers' hate the ministry, especially when the ministry does not fit into what their mold says. God uses whom He wants how He wants.

AA Allen was a man of faith and God used him mightily. I will leave it as that. The nonsense, the attacks on his person, the hatred against him, I simply ignore. Stories and lies like this should be ignored in the light of how the Lord did use the man.

[PASTOR'S WIFE]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Autopsies can be forged and stories can be made up. This would not be the first time something like this happened, and it will not be the last. As AB said, the world hates the ministry, and even some 'believers' hate the ministry, especially when the ministry does not fit into what their mold says. God uses whom He wants how He wants.

AA Allen was a man of faith and God used him mightily. I will leave it as that. The nonsense, the attacks on his person, the hatred against him, I simply ignore. Stories and lies like this should be ignored in the light of how the Lord did use the man.

I had read somewhere that his autopsy was forged as you just said. My husband was saved in Bro. Allen's meeting back in 1962 in Jacksonville, Fl. He was a Lutheren, took catachism (sp) and confirmed. His grandparents who were Pentecostal came to visit his family and begged him to take them to the revival. God touched him and he got saved. Nobody says anything bad about Bro. Allen to him. After we were married we went to Tampa to hear him and after the service, we went to a little restaurant and of all places, there was Bro. Allen sitting there eating a hamburger. God definitely used the man and most Pentecostal (A/G, Holiness, Church of God, Oneness, Trinity) were jealous of his ministry and tried to discredit him. He was God's Man of Faith and Power. (that was one of his introductions).

[UnTraditional]

Originally Posted by PASTOR'S WIFE

I had read somewhere that his autopsy was forged as you just said. My husband was saved in Bro. Allen's meeting back in 1962 in Jacksonville, Fl. He was a Lutheren, took catachism (sp) and confirmed. His grandparents who were Pentecostal came to visit his family and begged him to take them to the revival. God touched him and he got saved. Nobody says anything bad about Bro. Allen to him. After we were married we went to Tampa to hear him and after the service, we went to a little restaurant and of all places, there was Bro. Allen sitting there eating a hamburger. God definitely used the man and most Pentecostal (A/G, Holiness, Church of God, Oneness, Trinity) were jealous of his ministry and tried to discredit him. He was God's Man of Faith and Power. (that was one of his introductions).

The world mocks and scorns Pentecostal preachers and believers. They laugh when we speak in tongues, and mock when we say we believe in the supernatural. They lie worse than a Texas politican when it comes to the lives of believers. I sat yesterday and listened to Bro. Allen on YouTube, and his messages were powerful. If I was under a spirit of religion, I would have been very scared of a man like AA Allen.

We need men of faith and power like this today, with a powerful rhema on their lips and a true move of the Holy Ghost in their heart. I saw in the videos the miraculous take place and my faith was moved tremendously.

I'll leave the haters alone. They want more of control than having the Holy Ghost move as He sees fit.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Autopsies can be forged and stories can be made up. This would not be the first time something like this happened, and it will not be the last. As AB said, the world hates the ministry, and even some 'believers' hate the ministry, especially when the ministry does not fit into what their mold says. God uses whom He wants how He wants.

AA Allen was a man of faith and God used him mightily. I will leave it as that. The nonsense, the attacks on his person, the hatred against him, I simply ignore. Stories and lies like this should be ignored in the light of how the Lord did use the man.

Bill, what proof do you have that the autopsy was "forged"?

[ReformedDave]

Apprehended, that leg lengthening trick is just that!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

Autopsies can be forged and stories can be made up. This would not be the first time something like this happened, and it will not be the last. As AB said, the world hates the ministry, and even some 'believers' hate the ministry, especially when the ministry does not fit into what their mold says. God uses whom He wants how He wants.

AA Allen was a man of faith and God used him mightily. I will leave it as that. The nonsense, the attacks on his person, the hatred against him, I simply ignore. Stories and lies like this should be ignored in the light of how the Lord did use the man.

Well, you're making a pretty harsh condemnation of someone you never knew (the San Francisco County Medical Examiner in 1970). Don't you feel any shame for coming right out and calling this man a "liar?"

On the other hand, my family knew A.A. Allen.

[ReformedDave]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Well, you're making a pretty harsh condemnation of someone you never knew (the San Francisco County Medical Examiner in 1970). Don't you feel any shame for coming right out and calling this man a "liar?"

Don't take him too seriously. He'll change his opinion......in about a week.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by ReformedDave

Don't take him too seriously. He'll change his opinion......in about a week.

With warmer weather ahead, I guess we're bound to see more "flip-flops" out.