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Old 05-30-2011, 10:14 AM
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Re: Bishop Eddie Long Settles Out Of Court

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Bishop Long has over 10 attorneys on retainer at all times. The insurance companies that cover him have all their attorneys too.
This is not a decision that Bishop Long has made alone. There have been MANY attorneys that have advised him on the moves to make.
I can assure you that if I were advised by my attorneys to settle - I would be happy to do it. These are some wicked people he has been dealing with.

I think it is a shame and a disgrace for anyone to come on here and sling mud and say what you would do. Number 1 - You have never pastored 30,000 people and don't have a world wide ministry that reaches millions every week - if not every day.
It is small minded midget mentality people that would say he is guilty and you have no clue at all what it is even all about.
We live in Metro Atlanta and this witch of an attorney for these boys - solicited them after she found that they broke into his offices and stole his phones and other pieces of equipment from his offices. She is known for bringing false accusations against ministers.
This all started after Bishop Long and Bernice King led a march in Atlanta that opposed same sex marriage.
I am glad for Bishop Long and New Birth and celebrate with him this great victory!

Another thing - I know personally the men - Pastors/Bishops and advisers that Bishop Long has and sat at the table with some of them this week. Everyone single one told me he as been advised by EVERY attorney, adviser, Pastor/Bishop, Insurance Companies and THE JUDGE - to settle and get it over with! He does have great spiritual fathers in his life that counsel and advise him.
The size of his congregation has no bearing on his guilt or innocence.

I have followed this story very closely and am fairly convinced he is as guilty as sin.

It seems Bishop Long is a world class hypocrite.

I wonder if he will ever lead any marches, or preach against homosexuality, again?

Several years ago, the Missouri District UPC Superintendent was accused of some really bad things with a minor. Instead of fighting it, he turned in his license. In the years since, he has tried, on multiple occasions, to regain his license.

This, even though he settled out of court, there is an audio recording of his confession, and a website expose with undeniable proof that he committed the crimes.

I believe God lets these things come to light to expose hypocrisy, and purify the church.
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Old 05-30-2011, 11:57 AM
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Re: Bishop Eddie Long Settles Out Of Court

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The size of his congregation has no bearing on his guilt or innocence.

I have followed this story very closely and am fairly convinced he is as guilty as sin.

It seems Bishop Long is a world class hypocrite.

I wonder if he will ever lead any marches, or preach against homosexuality, again?

Several years ago, the Missouri District UPC Superintendent was accused of some really bad things with a minor. Instead of fighting it, he turned in his license. In the years since, he has tried, on multiple occasions, to regain his license.

This, even though he settled out of court, there is an audio recording of his confession, and a website expose with undeniable proof that he committed the crimes.

I believe God lets these things come to light to expose hypocrisy, and purify the church.
Is there an article that refers to this audio recording?
Is the recording available on the net?
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Old 05-30-2011, 07:32 PM
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Re: Bishop Eddie Long Settles Out Of Court

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The size of his congregation has no bearing on his guilt or innocence.

I have followed this story very closely and am fairly convinced he is as guilty as sin.

It seems Bishop Long is a world class hypocrite.

I wonder if he will ever lead any marches, or preach against homosexuality, again?
It certainly SEEMS that way, and settling will only further that perception in the mind of unbelievers. Even if "Christians" maintain his innocence, no doubt his credibility and influence is 9and should be) destroyed amongst unbelievers.

I can have alot more respect for someone who comes out and says "I did it, it was wrong, etc." Than someone who hides behind lies. Even the world is forgiving of those who admit their faults (on their own admission, not after being exposed), e.g. Roger Clemens/Andy Pettite.
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Old 05-30-2011, 08:41 PM
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Re: Bishop Eddie Long Settles Out Of Court

What does the Bible have to say about folks who are hungry for gossip?


Is it wrong to desire to know the dirt on your brothers and sisters?

Is it wrong to desire to know the dirt on your leaders?


I can't think of the appropriate, "Thou shall not... ," but something inside me convicts me when I find myself going after the dirt on other professing Christians.

I think it's wrong, but don't really know why.
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What does the Bible have to say about folks who are hungry for gossip?


Is it wrong to desire to know the dirt on your brothers and sisters?

Is it wrong to desire to know the dirt on your leaders?


I can't think of the appropriate, "Thou shall not... ," but something inside me convicts me when I find myself going after the dirt on other professing Christians.

I think it's wrong, but don't really know why.
It all comes down to intent I think. For example, what Charn brought up can have far reaching consequences - far beyond just knowing "the dirt". I would go so far as to say that anyone who is involved in any way has a responsibility and a duty to know as much of the evidence they can about it. Especially court evidence.
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What does the Bible have to say about folks who are hungry for gossip?

Is it wrong to desire to know the dirt on your brothers and sisters?

Is it wrong to desire to know the dirt on your leaders?

I can't think of the appropriate, "Thou shall not... ," but something inside me convicts me when I find myself going after the dirt on other professing Christians.

I think it's wrong, but don't really know why.
I agree.

However, the situations under discussion pertain to the sexual expotation of minors by men in high positions of spiritual authority. That's vastly different than consnsual relations-no matter how immoral- between adults.

These men masquerade as spiritual leaders over thousands. Many of their decisions were influenced by their sin.

They have never confessed. Instead, they continue to lie, and impugn the victims of their lust.

The church has an obligation to root them out. If we do not, we are no better than the Catholic bishops who, for years, covered up the abuse their priests meted out on innocent young men.
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Re: Bishop Eddie Long Settles Out Of Court

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...The church has an obligation to root them out. If we do not, we are no better than the Catholic bishops who, for years, covered up the abuse their priests meted out on innocent young men.
I agree with what you say, but like King David we keep on trying to cover it up by sending Uriah home then having him when killed when he wouldn't go home to his wife. It wasn't until after a prophet came and gave David a word from the Lord that David repented.

And under our NT application of prophecy, we do not allow anything judgmental.
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