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Old 07-12-2011, 04:11 PM
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Re: What meaneth this..

then why would Paul call Satan the god of this world..

and then of course Peter says in his epistle that through the many exceeding and great and precious promises we might partake of the divine nature and escape the corruption that is in the world through lust..

you brought in the word "divine" so I used that scripture because it triggered my rememberance..

so it goes on...
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:13 PM
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then why would Paul call Satan the god of this world..

and then of course Peter says in his epistle that through the many exceeding and great and precious promises we might partake of the divine nature and escape the corruption that is in the world through lust..

you brought in the word "divine" so I used that scripture because it triggered my rememberance..

so it goes on...
Because Satan is "the god of this world"...Im not sure what that has to do with what I posted or the previous topic

Peter said we are partakers OF the Divine nature. He did not say we become Divine. God fills us with His Spirit not makes His Spirit our Spirit
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:41 PM
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Because Satan is "the god of this world"...Im not sure what that has to do with what I posted or the previous topic

Peter said we are partakers OF the Divine nature. He did not say we become Divine. God fills us with His Spirit not makes His Spirit our Spirit

Now the next question is ....

then how can we mere mortals give unto the lamb that was slain , power and riches and wisdom and strength and honour and glory and blessing

and as far as Satan is concerned how then, can we have power over him and even put him under our feet as Jesus said, behold I give unto you power to tread upon serpents and scorpions , and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you...



You're right Peter did not say we are divine..so we're gonna have to give up that divine nature..
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Now the next question is ....

then how can we mere mortals give unto the lamb that was slain , power and riches and wisdom and strength and honour and glory and blessing

and as far as Satan is concerned how then, can we have power over him and even put him under our feet as Jesus said, behold I give unto you power to tread upon serpents and scorpions , and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you...
We don't, except for honor and blessings of course by our attitude and actions

We have power over Him because we are protected by God and are given authority to do things in HIS name. It's not OUR authority it's HIS
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Old 07-12-2011, 04:45 PM
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We don't, except for honor and blessings of course by our attitude and actions

We have power over Him because we are protected by God and are given authority to do things in HIS name. It's not OUR authority it's HIS
I know it's not, but it's given to us..if you give your child something is it his or just a loan..

the bible says the gifts and callings of God are without repentance..
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I know it's not, but it's given to us..if you give your child something is it his or just a loan..

the bible says the gifts and callings of God are without repentance..
We are given the authority to do something in HIS name by HIS power

As for the gifts and callings of God, what is your point?

God gives us OF His Spirit. Not God gives us our own Divine Spirit
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Old 07-12-2011, 05:00 PM
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We are given the authority to do something in HIS name by HIS power

As for the gifts and callings of God, what is your point?

God gives us OF His Spirit. Not God gives us our own Divine Spirit

if any man be in Christ he is a new creature, old things are passed away, behold all things are become new..

A new Creature..
It does not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that when he shall appear, we shall be like him ; for we shall see him as he is.. and every man that hath this hope purifieth himself ..


This why we should not lust......
Why Jesus said if you look on a woman to lust after her you commit adultery already (in your heart..)
If you are a powerful person that woman will come after you no matter what her status married or not....

and i don't mean powerful after the flesh..
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Old 07-12-2011, 06:05 PM
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We are given the authority to do something in HIS name by HIS power

As for the gifts and callings of God, what is your point?

God gives us OF His Spirit. Not God gives us our own Divine Spirit

When God gives us something it is ours;
that is why he tries our hearts before and requires that we seek him with all our heart or whole heart..so that he would consume everything in us..leaving nothing but our soul ans him...making us one..
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