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07-12-2011, 04:42 PM
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Re: What meaneth this..
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Now the next question is ....
then how can we mere mortals give unto the lamb that was slain , power and riches and wisdom and strength and honour and glory and blessing
and as far as Satan is concerned how then, can we have power over him and even put him under our feet as Jesus said, behold I give unto you power to tread upon serpents and scorpions , and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you... 
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We don't, except for honor and blessings of course by our attitude and actions
We have power over Him because we are protected by God and are given authority to do things in HIS name. It's not OUR authority it's HIS
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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07-12-2011, 04:45 PM
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Re: What meaneth this..
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We don't, except for honor and blessings of course by our attitude and actions
We have power over Him because we are protected by God and are given authority to do things in HIS name. It's not OUR authority it's HIS
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I know it's not, but it's given to us..if you give your child something is it his or just a loan..
the bible says the gifts and callings of God are without repentance..
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07-12-2011, 04:47 PM
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Re: What meaneth this..
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I know it's not, but it's given to us..if you give your child something is it his or just a loan..
the bible says the gifts and callings of God are without repentance.. 
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We are given the authority to do something in HIS name by HIS power
As for the gifts and callings of God, what is your point?
God gives us OF His Spirit. Not God gives us our own Divine Spirit
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-12-2011, 05:00 PM
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Re: What meaneth this..
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
We are given the authority to do something in HIS name by HIS power
As for the gifts and callings of God, what is your point?
God gives us OF His Spirit. Not God gives us our own Divine Spirit
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if any man be in Christ he is a new creature, old things are passed away, behold all things are become new..
A new Creature..
It does not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that when he shall appear, we shall be like him ; for we shall see him as he is.. and every man that hath this hope purifieth himself ..
This why we should not lust......
Why Jesus said if you look on a woman to lust after her you commit adultery already (in your heart..)
If you are a powerful person that woman will come after you no matter what her status married or not....
and i don't mean powerful after the flesh..
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07-12-2011, 06:05 PM
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Re: What meaneth this..
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
We are given the authority to do something in HIS name by HIS power
As for the gifts and callings of God, what is your point?
God gives us OF His Spirit. Not God gives us our own Divine Spirit
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When God gives us something it is ours;
that is why he tries our hearts before and requires that we seek him with all our heart or whole heart..so that he would consume everything in us..leaving nothing but our soul ans him...making us one..
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07-12-2011, 06:06 PM
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Re: What meaneth this..
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When God gives us something it is ours;
that is why he tries our hearts before and requires that we seek him with all our heart or whole heart..so that he would consume everything in us..leaving nothing but our soul ans him...making us one.. 
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Again, ok, but what does that have to do with being gods and what I said? Second time I asked
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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07-12-2011, 06:50 PM
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Re: What meaneth this..
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Again, ok, but what does that have to do with being gods and what I said? Second time I asked
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again the scripture says ye are all gods,, and of course Jesus referred to it himself...
If God granted us this grace why do we act like we don't have it..
like it's not ours, like it don't belong to us..like it's a loan,
in fact Ephesians one says it's a surety or down payment..
the earnest of our inheritance..
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07-12-2011, 10:06 PM
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Re: What meaneth this..
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again the scripture says ye are all gods,, and of course Jesus referred to it himself...
If God granted us this grace why do we act like we don't have it..
like it's not ours, like it don't belong to us..like it's a loan,
in fact Ephesians one says it's a surety or down payment..
the earnest of our inheritance.. 
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I already explained what that verse means. You quickly changed the topic to some other verse though Im not sure why.
What does having grace to do with those judges being called gods? Who says we don't act like we have grace?
The bible never says we will become gods.
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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