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Old 10-04-2011, 04:56 PM
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Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved

reading Romans chapter 8 atm

It says anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him.
We need his Spirit to be raised from the dead in the resurrection. Also, we have to be led by the Spirit of God to be a son of God.

I think we need the HG to be saved. I think we know we have the HG because we spoke in tongues. But after that, we have to be led by the Spirit of God to overcome the deeds of the flesh to stay saved.

How can 3 steppers change their minds and become 1 steppers? do they think that you receive two different kinds of the Spirit of God? one to be saved and another to be filled?
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Good to know what you think. Jehovahs witnesses think...Mormons think....
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Old 10-04-2011, 05:59 PM
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Good to know what you think. Jehovahs witnesses think...Mormons think....
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Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved

Amanah, Converts to One Step thought do not believe salvation occurrs apart from the Holy Spirit. In fact it must be recognized the Holy Spirit is active in the hearts of all who come to Christ.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:26 PM
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I do not believe you have to speak in tongues to be saved.
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:37 PM
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Old 10-04-2011, 07:43 PM
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Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved

The way I see it,there is no difference in receiving the Holy Ghost and being baptized with The Holy Ghost.I don't see a distinction between the two. If I understand 1 COR. 12:13 it is by one Spirit we are baptized into the body of Christ.
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Old 10-04-2011, 09:44 PM
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Re: Need the HG speaking in tongues to be saved

Anyone who studies Acts chapters 2, 10, and 11 should see that various expressions are used to refer to the same experience. There is no scripture that says the Spirit "baptism" is different from receiving the Holy Ghost. The Bible does not teach that there are two classes of Christians; some Spirit-filled, some not. However, if you have really received the Holy Ghost, the fruit of the Spirit should be evident in your life.
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Amanah, Converts to One Step thought do not believe salvation occurrs apart from the Holy Spirit. In fact it must be recognized the Holy Spirit is active in the hearts of all who come to Christ.
Exactly.

I believe that anyone who genuinely receives Jesus by faith as Lord and Savior can only do so if the Spirit is working in his heart. At the point of conversion, he is "indwelt" by the Spirit.

However, there can be subsequent "fillings" or "baptisms" in the Spirit after their conversion. I do not believe that tongues are a requirement for salvation.
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Exactly.

I believe that anyone who genuinely receives Jesus by faith as Lord and Savior can only do so if the Spirit is working in his heart. At the point of conversion, he is "indwelt" by the Spirit.

However, there can be subsequent "fillings" or "baptisms" in the Spirit after their conversion. I do not believe that tongues are a requirement for salvation.
without the HG seal of approval (tongues as evidence) the deal is off.
the HG seals the deal.
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