Louisiana Prohibits Cash For 2nd Hand Goods.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Ferd

I found the acutal bill

http://e-lobbyist.com/gaits/text/343620

It appears the law does not say you cannot use money to buy/sell second hand stuff. it appears to be an update of an existing law. It looks like it simply reqiures the collection of information from the sellers of second hand things and makes people who buy the stuff "dealers"

Pawn shops are exempted but there are other laws that deal with Pawn shops. it looks more like maybe this is to catch everyone else dealing in junk up with pawn shops etc.

I really do dislike it when internet idiots just say really stupid things .

good grief. you cannot use money to buy stuff????? ignorant.

It's still a stupid law. I had found the actual bill too and wasn't finding some of the quotes that have to do with cash and was attempting to find out where these quotes came from.

But it still remains that a person even having a garage sale once a month must gather name, address, drivers license number & license number...

It still remains that the definition of dealer is so broad that it could include anyone who sells on ebay or craigslist forcing them to gather and report all of this information to the government because they sold a cord of firewood or a scooter that's been sitting out back for the last 5 years.

There has been much added and much stricken from the initial bill and I am trying to get an answer as to where the quotes they provided from the bill came from.

As I have stated before... we are only the land of the free for as long as we are the home of the brave. This bill is still an invasion of liberty and privacy that should not be tolerated in this country.

It has often been said... cash is privacy. Well... that is no more the case in Louisiana.

I have emailed the law firm that stated the following quote as being part of the bill...

The law then states that “A secondhand dealer shall not enter into any cash transactions in payment for the purchase of junk or used or secondhand property. Payment shall be made in the form of check, electronic transfers, or money order issued to the seller of the junk or used or secondhand property…”

I cannot find this in any of the online copies of the bill that I have perused. I will let you know what I hear from them.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

It's still a stupid law. I had found the actual bill too and wasn't finding some of the quotes that have to do with cash and was attempting to find out where these quotes came from.

But it still remains that a person even having a garage sale once a month must gather name, address, drivers license number & license number...

It still remains that the definition of dealer is so broad that it could include anyone who sells on ebay or craigslist forcing them to gather and report all of this information to the government because they sold a cord of firewood or a scooter that's been sitting out back for the last 5 years.

There has been much added and much stricken from the initial bill and I am trying to get an answer as to where the quotes they provided from the bill came from.

As I have stated before... we are only the land of the free for as long as we are the home of the brave. This bill is still an invasion of liberty and privacy that should not be tolerated in this country.

It has often been said... cash is privacy. Well... that is no more the case in Louisiana.

You have this backwards. It is the PURCHASE that must be recorded by a DEALER.

If you have a garage sale at your house every week, you dont have to collect names of everyone who buys from you.

you only have to collect this information if you are BUYING JUNK.

If you sell stuff on Ebay, there is no impact on the sell transaction.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by Ferd

You have this backwards. It is the PURCHASE that must be recorded by a DEALER.

If you have a garage sale at your house every week, you dont have to collect names of everyone who buys from you.

you only have to collect this information if you are BUYING JUNK.

If you sell stuff on Ebay, there is no impact on the sell transaction.

Read the definition of a dealer.

They can call it a international conglomerate if they want to. But the real point is who they define it.

It's the broadness of the definition. And it is doubtful that they would mess with ebayers & craigslist people at first. But if the breadth of the definition allows it.... they will... eventually.

And... it's buying junk, used or secondhand property. Not just junk. As a matter of fact I believe that Junk was added later on in the process.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Read the definition of a dealer.

They can call it a international conglomerate if they want to. But the real point is who they define it.

It's the broadness of the definition. And it is doubtful that they would mess with ebayers & craigslist people at first. But if the breadth of the definition allows it.... they will... eventually.

Again, the only people who have to collect information are dealers who are BUYING. and they must pay with a check or money order.

The bill clearly defines this.

If you walk into a junk shop and buy something, you will not have to fork over any information and you can pay in cash.

If however, you walk into a junk shop with a coil of copper, you will have to prove you have leagal ownership of the copper before you can sell it and you will have to give identification.

this is clearly defined in the law.