The bible was written by men.

mfblume · #1 10-20-2011, 09:28 AM

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Oh, I'm sure that explains it. 50 years in it, speaking in tongues, praying for the sick, serving as deacon, teacher, youth leader, etc. Not enough effort.

Not enough effort is not the problem, I think. Most apostolic circles make that same mistake that most other movements make. They understand Rmans 5's justification by faith from sins but jump pover charts 6 and 7 and go to 8 where it speaks of not condemnation. They think more commitment and more effort is the requirement. Not so. Understanding Rmans 6-7 is the need. We are informed that we are dead to sin, not just justified from sins, and must appropriate that fact by faith. Is gives the faith for victory to God that he requires to empower us to live in victory. It is NOT more commitment.

Timmy · #2 10-20-2011, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Not enough effort is not the problem, I think. . . .

Thanks. But I don't have a problem. Not anymore. And I'm not going to hell for walking away from that problem, thank you very much.

mfblume · #3 10-20-2011, 09:31 AM

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Thanks. But I don't have a problem. Not anymore. And I'm not going to hell for walking away from that problem, thank you very much.

Believe what you want. It's a free world. But why be on a vengeance to prove to people that the bible is wrong? I just wish folks would stop telling others the bible is wrong since they feel it did not work for them.

Timmy · #4 10-20-2011, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Believe what you want. It's a free world. But why be on a vengeance to prove to people that the bible is wrong? I just wish folks would stop telling others the bible is wrong since they feel it did not work for them.

What if it really is wrong?