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11-23-2011, 06:55 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Jay
Sherri, I ask that you reread my post about Lucifer and his fall. I was making a remark about another poster's statement. That idea was not mine, but I can see how that you might have gotten confused. I was merely mentioning that I would like to hear how a person would use him to preach against jewelry, not saying that I embraced that myself, especially as I feel that there are many other places to draw from.
That being said, I am still against jewelry. By the way, that ring on the prodigal's hand was not a mere decoration, but was a signant ring showing that he could do business in his father's name. It goes to show that a backslider may pray back through and be restored to the power of God.
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I agree, but it's still jewelry. I could say that my diamond dinner ring is a sign to show that I've been married thirty years. My weddding ring is a sign that I'm married. My Africa necklace pendant is a sign that I love missions. It goes on and on.........the logic breaks down somewhere.
Sorry, I'm not meaning to argue. This kind of stuff just makes me crazy. Just say it's traditions, and I'm fine with that. I have my own.
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11-23-2011, 09:06 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Dagwood
His name rang a bell. So, I searched online for him. He came and preached for us about 2 years ago. What disgusted me more than anything was, within the first few minutes of him stepping up on the platform, even after a powerful worship atmosphere with the musicians, he had the audacity to tell the congregants, "Oh come on, if you can go to a football game and get loud and get crazy, you need to do the same for Jesus Christ," or something to that affect.
I wanted to stand up and ask him: "Dude, did you just not realize what happened BEFORE you stepped on the platform, or were you too busy with other things on your mind?"
I wasn't impressed after that...
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Found this thread regarding Jeffers. Some of the posts seem to reveal the same sentiments I have...
http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=9555
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01-30-2012, 07:33 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Sherri
I agree, but it's still jewelry. I could say that my diamond dinner ring is a sign to show that I've been married thirty years. My weddding ring is a sign that I'm married. My Africa necklace pendant is a sign that I love missions. It goes on and on.........the logic breaks down somewhere.
Sorry, I'm not meaning to argue. This kind of stuff just makes me crazy. Just say it's traditions, and I'm fine with that. I have my own.
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WOW!!! what an intelligent impressive response & sweet spirit If only ALL posts were written in the tone...
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06-21-2012, 05:01 PM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
I contemplated posting a new thread, but I did a quick search and found this one.
I'm very familiar with Dr. Jeffers. The last time I saw him, was in November of last year he did a Mens Conference in Tulare, CA.
This video will bless you. Dr. Jeffers preached this in 2007 at BOTT in Alexandria, LA.
http://apostoliclive.com/play.php?vid=3354
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06-22-2012, 10:58 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by BroJoe
I contemplated posting a new thread, but I did a quick search and found this one.
I'm very familiar with Dr. Jeffers. The last time I saw him, was in November of last year he did a Mens Conference in Tulare, CA.
This video will bless you. Dr. Jeffers preached this in 2007 at BOTT in Alexandria, LA.
http://apostoliclive.com/play.php?vid=3354
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"Now, you talkin' about a strange situation, the gentleman I'm bringing to you now, Dr. Jeffers, I'd never heard him preach. That's a scary thought, isn't it?"
Wow. As much respect as I have for Bro. Mangun, I'm rather shocked that even he would have someone with the amount of controversy behind him as stated just in this thread come and "preach" for his congregation, not to mention the fact that he's never heard him preach before.
I mean, that's what I heard him say. What more evidence is needed to be skeptical?
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06-22-2012, 11:07 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Dagwood
"Now, you talkin' about a strange situation, the gentleman I'm bringing to you now, Dr. Jeffers, I'd never heard him preach. That's a scary thought, isn't it?"
Wow. As much respect as I have for Bro. Mangun, I'm rather shocked that even he would have someone with the amount of controversy behind him as stated just in this thread come and "preach" for his congregation, not to mention the fact that he's never heard him preach before.
I mean, that's what I heard him say. What more evidence is needed to be skeptical?
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There are some, within the apostolic movement that are very much on Jeffers bandwagon. I saw leaders in the ALJC eat up everything the man said.... without question... and when I asked qualifying questions about the doctrines... was told I was causing division, because there were too many "signs and wonders" acommpanying his ministry for it to not be right. He was supposedly bringing FRESH BREAD and NEW REVELATION that we needed to hear.
I have no idea, but would almost bet that Mangun was "suggested" to have the guy at BOTT, keeping in mind that's a little different than giving him your pulpit for your congregation. And would almost bet he made sure that for those in the crowd who weren't on the Jeffers bandwagon, he provided the disclaimer that he had never heard the man preach.
I'm an evangelist... I know what that line means when a preacher says that when he's introducing me... it means... if he goes off the deep end, aint my fault.. he was just recommended to me, LOL.
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06-22-2012, 11:11 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
There are some, within the apostolic movement that are very much on Jeffers bandwagon. I saw leaders in the ALJC eat up everything the man said.... without question... and when I asked qualifying questions about the doctrines... was told I was causing division, because there were too many "signs and wonders" acommpanying his ministry for it to not be right. He was supposedly bringing FRESH BREAD and NEW REVELATION that we needed to hear.
I have no idea, but would almost bet that Mangun was "suggested" to have the guy at BOTT, keeping in mind that's a little different than giving him your pulpit for your congregation. And would almost bet he made sure that for those in the crowd who weren't on the Jeffers bandwagon, he provided the disclaimer that he had never heard the man preach.
I'm an evangelist... I know what that line means when a preacher says that when he's introducing me... it means... if he goes off the deep end, aint my fault.. he was just recommended to me, LOL.
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I gotcha. And, Mangun did mention that Tenney told him about Jeffers. Being that Tenney and Mangun are very close, I'm sure Mangun didn't want to dismiss the opportunity. But, still, caution flags are thrown up anytime I hear "But, I've never heard so-and-so preach before."
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06-22-2012, 11:49 AM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
And if I may cut someone off at the pass here....
I know there are some that will probably post to one incident when Dr. Jeffers preached a great message, or gave them a word they needed, or had a good thought, and somehow think that out weighs his doctrines that he taughts of eternal past souls and little gods.... I give to you the great wisdom of the East TN Hills I was raised in.....
Don't Matter.... even a blind hog can find an acorn every once in a while....
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06-22-2012, 12:14 PM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Bro. Robbins
And if I may cut someone off at the pass here....
I know there are some that will probably post to one incident when Dr. Jeffers preached a great message, or gave them a word they needed, or had a good thought, and somehow think that out weighs his doctrines that he taughts of eternal past souls and little gods.... I give to you the great wisdom of the East TN Hills I was raised in.....
Don't Matter.... even a blind hog can find an acorn every once in a while....
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LOL, I could just hear that Appalachian accent now...
I love it...
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06-22-2012, 07:36 PM
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Re: Dr. Gerald Jeffers
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Originally Posted by Dagwood
"Now, you talkin' about a strange situation, the gentleman I'm bringing to you now, Dr. Jeffers, I'd never heard him preach. That's a scary thought, isn't it?"
Wow. As much respect as I have for Bro. Mangun, I'm rather shocked that even he would have someone with the amount of controversy behind him as stated just in this thread come and "preach" for his congregation, not to mention the fact that he's never heard him preach before.
I mean, that's what I heard him say. What more evidence is needed to be skeptical?
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Bro. Tenney referred him to Bro Mangun.
The only controversy I've ever heard about Bro. Jeffers has come from this thread alone lol.
All I've ever heard was positive.
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