Dr. Gerald Jeffers

[Nitehawk013]

You know the mentality though Sherri. If you give an inch...some peopel can't stop and have to have the whole mile. That is why some men refuse to even give the inch, even when scripture doesn't prohibit something.

We all know at least one woman who takes the jewelry thing to insane excesses. I have no real problem with jewelry, but I have issue with outright vanity and excess in buying all the jewelry a person can possibly handle. Some men just feel they are avoiding the problem completely by creating a prohibiton on jewelry that doesn't exist in scripture.

Some go as far as to even ban the rubber bracelets. Never mind that the very definition of jewelry demands that it be some sort of jewels or costly material so rubber bracelets don't fit the definition at all.

[iceniez]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

WOW...we heard him minister tonight...Has anyone heard him minister?

every time I have heard him I have been amazed and inspired.

[Sister Alvear]

Just heard him one time and the sermon I heard had nothing out of the way in it...I do not know him so cannot say much...hope he is ok..

[Cindy]

Context is important.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Jay

Could show me where, after God is dealing with the children of Israel, jewelry is actually accepted and encouraged?

The Father put the ring back on the finger of the prodigal son to help signify that he was home and back in the fold.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Nitehawk013

You know the mentality though Sherri. If you give an inch...some peopel can't stop and have to have the whole mile. That is why some men refuse to even give the inch, even when scripture doesn't prohibit something.

We all know at least one woman who takes the jewelry thing to insane excesses. I have no real problem with jewelry, but I have issue with outright vanity and excess in buying all the jewelry a person can possibly handle. Some men just feel they are avoiding the problem completely by creating a prohibiton on jewelry that doesn't exist in scripture.

Some go as far as to even ban the rubber bracelets. Never mind that the very definition of jewelry demands that it be some sort of jewels or costly material so rubber bracelets don't fit the definition at all.

So, punish the group for the sins of a few? Doesn't make sense to me. Some people have a problem overeating and regularly make a foray into gluttony, but do we forbid the entire congregation to eat? Some people miss church for work regularly, but do we forbid the congregation to work?

This is the issue we've had, we don't deal with the problem with individuals, we make blanket rules.

Just my opinion.

[Dagwood]

His name rang a bell. So, I searched online for him. He came and preached for us about 2 years ago. What disgusted me more than anything was, within the first few minutes of him stepping up on the platform, even after a powerful worship atmosphere with the musicians, he had the audacity to tell the congregants, "Oh come on, if you can go to a football game and get loud and get crazy, you need to do the same for Jesus Christ," or something to that affect.

I wanted to stand up and ask him: "Dude, did you just not realize what happened BEFORE you stepped on the platform, or were you too busy with other things on your mind?"

I wasn't impressed after that...

[Jay]

Sherri, I ask that you reread my post about Lucifer and his fall. I was making a remark about another poster's statement. That idea was not mine, but I can see how that you might have gotten confused. I was merely mentioning that I would like to hear how a person would use him to preach against jewelry, not saying that I embraced that myself, especially as I feel that there are many other places to draw from.


That being said, I am still against jewelry. By the way, that ring on the prodigal's hand was not a mere decoration, but was a signant ring showing that he could do business in his father's name. It goes to show that a backslider may pray back through and be restored to the power of God.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Jay

Sherri, I ask that you reread my post about Lucifer and his fall. I was making a remark about another poster's statement. That idea was not mine, but I can see how that you might have gotten confused. I was merely mentioning that I would like to hear how a person would use him to preach against jewelry, not saying that I embraced that myself, especially as I feel that there are many other places to draw from.


That being said, I am still against jewelry. By the way, that ring on the prodigal's hand was not a mere decoration, but was a signant ring showing that he could do business in his father's name. It goes to show that a backslider may pray back through and be restored to the power of God.

What does a wedding ring signify?

[Sherri]

Originally Posted by Jay

Sherri, I ask that you reread my post about Lucifer and his fall. I was making a remark about another poster's statement. That idea was not mine, but I can see how that you might have gotten confused. I was merely mentioning that I would like to hear how a person would use him to preach against jewelry, not saying that I embraced that myself, especially as I feel that there are many other places to draw from.


That being said, I am still against jewelry. By the way, that ring on the prodigal's hand was not a mere decoration, but was a signant ring showing that he could do business in his father's name. It goes to show that a backslider may pray back through and be restored to the power of God.

I agree, but it's still jewelry. I could say that my diamond dinner ring is a sign to show that I've been married thirty years. My weddding ring is a sign that I'm married. My Africa necklace pendant is a sign that I love missions. It goes on and on.........the logic breaks down somewhere.

Sorry, I'm not meaning to argue. This kind of stuff just makes me crazy. Just say it's traditions, and I'm fine with that. I have my own.