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01-07-2012, 03:35 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
Lord have mercy Pastor Epley...You should be dusting off some of your Alligator and Crocodile shoes and polishing up some gold and diamond jewelry while you are counting money like me! I am wrapping these stacks of $100 bills in foil and putting them in the freezer. Just got finished with a great meeting at the Charismatic Cathedral of Compassion! I gave out Green Prayer Cloths for Prosperity and they went over well - I got $112 for each one and they stood in line for over and hour to get them!
Counting the money but ain't gonna let the bank get but a little of it! About to fly to Vegas for a few nights of uh...Prosperity!
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Since I do not know you I have no idea if this is supposed to be a joke or not.
You do realize that while you may not do what you are speaking of, that there ARE preachers that do.
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01-07-2012, 04:59 PM
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the ultracon
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
No rest for the weary church is having a household shower for a young couple BUT we will only make an appearance, then back by the hospital to check on the mother and baby and taking my sweetheart out for supper. I came home at midnight my wife went back up and stayed all night with the mother so the family could rest. She is resting now.
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Am I the only one who finds this a bit over the top. Giving birth is not an illness. Not sure why you and your wife feel the necessity to camp out in the labor room with this mother.
Some preachers would not feel that they have to tell us how hard they have labored, to earn they 100% take/control of the tithe, if they'd stay out times like these hours spent in the labor room.
Unless there were/are complications that the family called you in on, stay out of labor delivery rooms.
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01-07-2012, 05:36 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Am I the only one who finds this a bit over the top. Giving birth is not an illness. Not sure why you and your wife feel the necessity to camp out in the labor room with this mother.
Some preachers would not feel that they have to tell us how hard they have labored, to earn they 100% take/control of the tithe, if they'd stay out times like these hours spent in the labor room.
Unless there were/are complications that the family called you in on, stay out of labor delivery rooms.
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Who are you to even have a say in what he does. You don't have a clue. Crawl back in the hole you crawled out of!
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01-07-2012, 06:10 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
Who are you to even have a say in what he does. You don't have a clue. Crawl back in the hole you crawled out of!
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I know, right? Critics be gone!
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01-07-2012, 06:15 PM
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the ultracon
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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01-07-2012, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop
You don't have a clue. Crawl back in the hole you crawled out of!
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Oh, that is the AB I've come to know and expect.
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01-07-2012, 06:49 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Am I the only one who finds this a bit over the top. Giving birth is not an illness. Not sure why you and your wife feel the necessity to camp out in the labor room with this mother.
Some preachers would not feel that they have to tell us how hard they have labored, to earn they 100% take/control of the tithe, if they'd stay out times like these hours spent in the labor room.
Unless there were/are complications that the family called you in on, stay out of labor delivery rooms.
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Young couple's first baby they were afraid so I am there. I certainly have not been trying to toot my horn just giving the other side of all the horror stories you guys have posted on how the preacher should be on food stamps and living in the projects and filling out a time sheet.
You have no excuse YOUR pastor never took ONE dime of the church for his own personal use all the years he pastored and provided jobs for many of the men in the church.
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01-07-2012, 06:52 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Originally Posted by freeatlast
Am I the only one who finds this a bit over the top. Giving birth is not an illness. Not sure why you and your wife feel the necessity to camp out in the labor room with this mother.
Some preachers would not feel that they have to tell us how hard they have labored, to earn they 100% take/control of the tithe, if they'd stay out times like these hours spent in the labor room.
Unless there were/are complications that the family called you in on, stay out of labor delivery rooms.
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No FAL you are NOT the only one who finds it completely over the top. I worked as an obstetric nurse for 12 years and I have never, ever, ever seen someone's pastor come by for anything but the quickest visit. Most men do not want to be anywhere near when a woman is in labor unless she is having their child. It is generally a very private time for families and even extended family tends to keep their distance and let the mother-to-be go through multiple vaginal exams, having her water broken, getting shaved and an enema, moaning, groaning, changing positions, hanging out of a meager hospital gown, pushing, crowning getting an epsiotomy and having it stitched back together with some privacy and dignity.
I can not imagine having my preacher anywhere near as I gave birth to any of my five children. I would have been mortified.
Boundaries, people... please. Of course after hearing from this same preacher today that there are actually preachers in this movement that discourage sick people from seeking medical care I am getting more creeped out my the minute... It's getting just a little Jim Jonesish around here for me...
Last edited by Titus2woman; 01-07-2012 at 06:56 PM.
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01-07-2012, 06:57 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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No FAL you are NOT the only one who finds it completely over the top. I worked as an obstetric nurse for 12 years and I have never, ever, ever seen someone's pastor come by for anything but the quickest visit. Most men do not want to be anywhere near when a woman is in labor unless she is having their child. It is generally a very private time for families and even extended family tends to keep their distance and let the mother-to-be go through multiple vaginal exams, having her water broken, getting shaved and an enema, moaning, groaning, changing positions, hanging out of a meager hospital gown, pushing, crowning getting an epsiotomy and having it stitched back together with some privacy and dignity.
I can not imagine having my preacher anywhere near as I gave birth to any of my five children. I would have been mortified.
Boundaries, people... please. Of course after hearing from this same preacher today that there are actually preachers in this movement that discourage sick people from seeking medical care I am getting more creeped out my the minute... It's getting just a little Jim Jonesish around here for me...
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Unless the pastor wants HIS face to be the first one the newborn baby sees.
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01-07-2012, 07:00 PM
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Re: Confidentiality of Tithes
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Young couple's first baby they were afraid so I am there. I certainly have not been trying to toot my horn just giving the other side of all the horror stories you guys have posted on how the preacher should be on food stamps and living in the projects and filling out a time sheet.
You have no excuse YOUR pastor never took ONE dime of the church for his own personal use all the years he pastored and provided jobs for many of the men in the church.
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OK, I can understand someone being nervous and wanting some support to a degree, but to add to freeatlast's initial statement, why do people need their pastor there? Are they taught that he should be there?
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