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Old 01-12-2012, 04:08 PM
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Unconditional? Have you actually read the Bible?
Are you implying the Bible does not promote unconditional love?
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Old 01-12-2012, 04:27 PM
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Are you implying the Bible does not promote unconditional love?
I listed a few conditions the Bible puts on forgiveness. You don't think God's forgiveness is unconditional, do you?

We could consider God's love to be unconditional, if we believe that He loves us as even as He is throwing (some of) us into hell. Those of us who don't bear good fruit (hewn down and thrown into the fire), for example.
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Old 01-12-2012, 06:08 PM
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I listed a few conditions the Bible puts on forgiveness. You don't think God's forgiveness is unconditional, do you?

We could consider God's love to be unconditional, if we believe that He loves us as even as He is throwing (some of) us into hell. Those of us who don't bear good fruit (hewn down and thrown into the fire), for example.
God hasn't thrown anyone into hell, as hell does not exist yet. Most of your angst is, I believe, due to our death-centric approach in the West.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:31 AM
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God hasn't thrown anyone into hell, as hell does not exist yet. Most of your angst is, I believe, due to our death-centric approach in the West.
So replace present tense verbs with future tense. Do you think God will send some people to hell and allow others into heaven, or not?
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Those of us who don't bear good fruit (hewn down and thrown into the fire), for example.
Timmy, tell us how to bear good fruit and measure it in thirty-fold, sixty-fold and hundred-fold.
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Old 01-13-2012, 08:33 AM
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Timmy, tell us how to bear good fruit and measure it in thirty-fold, sixty-fold and hundred-fold.
For the first part, live unselfishly, loving your neighbor, giving, helping. For the measure part, ?
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:05 AM
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I listed a few conditions the Bible puts on forgiveness. You don't think God's forgiveness is unconditional, do you?

We could consider God's love to be unconditional, if we believe that He loves us as even as He is throwing (some of) us into hell. Those of us who don't bear good fruit (hewn down and thrown into the fire), for example.
God's love is unconditional. His conditions for forgiveness were met in Jesus Christ. Faith in Jesus imputes His righteousness to those who believe, the only condition that is required.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:07 AM
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God's love is unconditional. His conditions for forgiveness were met in Jesus Christ. Faith in Jesus imputes His righteousness to those who believe, the only condition that is required.
So it's my flawed human thinking. Reading things for what they say. Taking Jesus (as quoted in the Bible) at His word. When Jesus puts conditions on God's forgiveness, He doesn't actually mean there are conditions for us.
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So it's my flawed human thinking. Reading things for what they say. Taking Jesus (as quoted in the Bible) at His word. When Jesus puts conditions on God's forgiveness, He doesn't actually mean there are conditions for us.
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He went way of OSAS... or so it looks.
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Old 01-13-2012, 09:28 AM
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Timmy,

He went way of OSAS... or so it looks.
I believe a person can backslide. I dont believe one saved always saved. But I don't believe in a God who gives up easy either.
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