Are you as forgiving as God is?

[houston]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I have sought and found my own salvation.

what?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by houston

what?

I'm saved from religion. It was killing me.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I'm saved from religion. It was killing me.

and now you're a gnostic?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by houston

and now you're a gnostic?

Agnostic, yes. (I'm not a gnostic! )

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Agnostic, yes. (I'm not a gnostic! )

Timmy, wanted to check with the dictionary to refresh my memory what agnostic meant. Do any of these definitions define how you are now perceiving God? Just curious.

Definition of agnostic:

ag·nos·tic noun
1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience. Synonyms: disbeliever, nonbeliever, unbeliever; doubter, skeptic, secularist, empiricist; heathen, heretic, infidel, pagan.

2. a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study.

3. a person who holds neither of two opposing positions on a topic: Socrates was an agnostic on the subject of immortality.

adjective
4. of or pertaining to agnostics or agnosticism.

5. asserting the uncertainty of all claims to knowledge.

6. holding neither of two opposing positions: If you take an agnostic view of technology, then it becomes clear that your decisions to implement one solution or another should be driven by need.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Timmy, wanted to check with the dictionary to refresh my memory what agnostic meant. Do any of these definitions define how you are now perceiving God? Just curious.

Definition of agnostic:

ag·nos·tic noun
1. a person who holds that the existence of the ultimate cause, as God, and the essential nature of things are unknown and unknowable, or that human knowledge is limited to experience. Synonyms: disbeliever, nonbeliever, unbeliever; doubter, skeptic, secularist, empiricist; heathen, heretic, infidel, pagan.

2. a person who denies or doubts the possibility of ultimate knowledge in some area of study.

3. a person who holds neither of two opposing positions on a topic: Socrates was an agnostic on the subject of immortality.

adjective
4. of or pertaining to agnostics or agnosticism.

5. asserting the uncertainty of all claims to knowledge.

6. holding neither of two opposing positions: If you take an agnostic view of technology, then it becomes clear that your decisions to implement one solution or another should be driven by need.

Def 1 is pretty close.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Def 1 is pretty close.

well when you get serious, you'll stop looking for someone to prove God to you, which is impossible, and not even accessible with your mind, and get busy doing your best to disprove God; and then see what happens.

In order to grasp the number "quadrillion," all the grains of sand on all the planets in the universe is often used. If the energy in the universe was off by one grain of sand, our universe would not be possible.

This one particular answer was plausibly denied for years, as being just too impossible to happen. I suggest that the props are quickly disappearing for gnostics or atheists.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Agnostic, yes. (I'm not a gnostic! )

a-without
gnōsis-knowledge

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by houston

a-without
gnōsis-knowledge

Right. That's the etymology. And I freely admit that I do not have knowledge of God's existence.