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01-27-2012, 03:16 PM
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Re: Knowing The Terror Of The Lord
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Should we not focus on both? Why did Paul an Apostle who wrote most of the New Testament say KNOWING THE TERROR OF THE LORD we persuade men? Do we have a better, clearer revelation of the person and teaching of Christ than he did?
Paul never mentioned the devil in this context. He was talking about the Lord Jesus.
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The word in 2 Cor 5:11 means "reverence, as for one's husband." I don't think this means the kind of "terror" you are thinking..and seem to be proposing.
It's more like, "knowing the deep reverence and respect we have for the Lord we love and adore..." And...suddenly, we're back to love.
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01-27-2012, 03:41 PM
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Re: Knowing The Terror Of The Lord
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The word in 2 Cor 5:11 means "reverence, as for one's husband." I don't think this means the kind of "terror" you are thinking..and seem to be proposing.
It's more like, "knowing the deep reverence and respect we have for the Lord we love and adore..." And...suddenly, we're back to love. |
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01-27-2012, 03:59 PM
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Re: Knowing The Terror Of The Lord
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The word in 2 Cor 5:11 means "reverence, as for one's husband." I don't think this means the kind of "terror" you are thinking..and seem to be proposing.
It's more like, "knowing the deep reverence and respect we have for the Lord we love and adore..." And...suddenly, we're back to love. |
Did you happen to look the word up for yourself? It does NOT mean what you said.
Strongs word number 5401 Greek word "phobos".
It means:
to put in fear,alarm or fright, exceeding fear, fright.
When people start studying for themselves they will learn many things.
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01-27-2012, 04:17 PM
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Re: Knowing The Terror Of The Lord
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Did you happen to look the word up for yourself? It does NOT mean what you said.
Strongs word number 5401 Greek word "phobos".
It means:
to put in fear,alarm or fright, exceeding fear, fright.
When people start studying for themselves they will learn many things.
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Yes, actually, I did look up the word for myself. It truly is amazing what people will learn when they start studying for themselves.
Strongs word number 5401 Greek word "phobos". I'm in agreement thus far. 
It means: 1. fear, dread, terror
2. reverence, respect (for authority, rank, dignity). 2 Corinthians 5:11 is referenced here, meaning this is the proper understanding of the word as used in this verse.
This is according to Thayer's Lexicon.
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"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition — and then admit that we just don’t want to do it."
-Steven Colbert
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01-27-2012, 04:42 PM
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Re: Knowing The Terror Of The Lord
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21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
It's a two-sided sword...
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01-27-2012, 05:06 PM
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Re: Knowing The Terror Of The Lord
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Jude
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
It's a two-sided sword...
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Interestingly, Thayer's has a note about this usage.
"with anxious heed lest ye be defiled by the wickedness of those whom ye are rescuing, Jude 23"
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"If this is going to be a Christian nation that doesn’t help the poor, either we’ve got to pretend that Jesus was just as selfish as we are, or we’ve got to acknowledge that he commanded us to love the poor and serve the needy without condition — and then admit that we just don’t want to do it."
-Steven Colbert
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01-27-2012, 07:18 PM
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Re: Knowing The Terror Of The Lord
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Jude
21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
22 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
23 And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.
24 Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,
25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.
It's a two-sided sword...
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Amen
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