Old Time Pentecost

[Titus2woman]

Horse Puckey? Is that the official Pentecostal way of saying manure, dung, poop, ........? I live on a farm and raise horses and I've never seen a 'puckey'. Could that be construed as cussing?

Please find the term 'personal conviction' in scripture? When you do, I will begin believing in them, LOL! Illuminating is the fact that every person I have ever heard use the term has a pre-made list of the ones I should have in order to be saved.

Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of eating or drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. –Romans 14:7-18.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Horse Puckey? Is that the official Pentecostal way of saying manure, dung, poop, ........? I live on a farm and raise horses and I've never seen a 'puckey'. Could that be construed as cussing?

Please find the term 'personal conviction' in scripture? When you do, I will begin believing in them, LOL! Illuminating is the fact that every person I have ever heard use the term has a pre-made list of the ones I should have in order to be saved.

Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of eating or drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. –Romans 14:7-18.

Born and raise on a farm. South Arkansas. Its a southern term, lol.

Scripture for personal conviction ? Sure!

Philippians 2:12

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling

Isaiah 30:21

Your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying,
“This is the way, walk in it,”
Whenever you turn to the right hand
Or whenever you turn to the left.

John 16; 7,8


Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

"He" will convict. The Holy Spirit will convict. Not your beliefs, nor any other man or orgs beliefs will convict, but HE will convict.

Funny, didn't you just start a great big thread about leaving the guidlines of an org because the Spirit was leading you else where ? That's personal conviction.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by scotty

Born and raise on a farm. South Arkansas. Its a southern term, lol.

Scripture for personal conviction ? Sure!

Philippians 2:12

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling

Isaiah 30:21

Your ears shall hear a word behind you, saying,
“This is the way, walk in it,”
Whenever you turn to the right hand
Or whenever you turn to the left.

John 16; 7,8


Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

"He" will convict. The Holy Spirit will convict. Not your beliefs, nor any other man or orgs beliefs will convict, but HE will convict.

Funny, didn't you just start a great big thread about leaving the guidlines of an org because the Spirit was leading you else where ? That's personal conviction.

So it is southern cussing then??? Okey-dokey.

I am not suggesting that the principle is not there but I am no longer down with the term "personal conviction". That term is attached to a lot of things that have no groundwork in scripture and a lot of hype and pressure from some desiring power over the people and do not in any way lead to being a better more spiritual Christian. Rather these 'personal convictions' are a cornerstone for how to bend and stretch a rule until it groans in agony while not actually breaking it.

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. For the Kingdom of God is not a matter of eating or drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. –Romans 14:7-18.

Agreed!

And this street goes both ways.

I am not a die-hard standards person myself -- but I respect those who are. (I'm not saying you, but some on this forum definitely poke fun at looks.)

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Agreed!

And this street goes both ways.

I am not a die-hard standards person myself -- but I respect those who are. (I'm not saying you, but some on this forum definitely poke fun at looks.)

I am probably the king of that. But only because I see the incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness buried a half inch underneath.

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I am probably the king of that. But only because I see the incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness buried a half inch underneath.

Well yes, I believe you do wear that crown! LOL

And not always is that "incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness" present. Sometimes, it is truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right." And if they feel it is right, then to do otherwise (for them) would be sin.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Sometimes, it is truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right." And if they feel it is right, then to do otherwise (for them) would be sin.

And that is Bible!

Which is complete without the addition of concepts, like trinity or like 'personal conviction'. Just use what is there.. it works.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Well yes, I believe you do wear that crown! LOL

And not always is that "incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness" present. Sometimes, it is truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right." And if they feel it is right, then to do otherwise (for them) would be sin.

Amen, exactly.

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

And that is Bible!

Which is complete without the addition of concepts, like trinity or like 'personal conviction'. Just use what is there.. it works.

LOL ! Lets see. Fiyahstarter says its a" truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right."

I said personal conviction.

Personal -
relating to, directed to, or intended for one's personal life; intended for use by one person: a personal car.

Conviction-
a fixed or firmly held belief or opinion.
the state of being convicted.

In other words the only difference between the two is in your head. Thats where you apply your broad brush to the dogma of anything that remotely sounds like it might personally offend your newly found freedom from the mothership.

Stop being offended long enough to have a mature conversation you might find more times than not, there are more people with you than against you.

Aside from that. Too many times those who don't like standards enjoy poking fun at those who may genuinely feel like they are led in their personal walk with God to do certain things or live a certain way. When there are those like me, who have standards I keep, that couldn't care less what the rest of you do in your walk with God. My personal walk will not get you into heaven. And your personal walk will not get me into heaven.

Whats funny is when people come here and say they are "led of God to leave the Great UPC Satan" make fun of those who say they are led by God to live a little differently. Then all of a sudden God is confused. lol .
2. a fixed or firmly held belief, opinion, etc
2. a fixed or firmly held belief, opinion, etc

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Fiyahstarter

Well yes, I believe you do wear that crown! LOL

And not always is that "incredible pride and sense of exclusiveness" present. Sometimes, it is truly genuine commitment in what one feels is "right." And if they feel it is right, then to do otherwise (for them) would be sin.

Sometimes. But rarely. More often it is like the Pharisee thanking God he or she is not like the rest of the world sitting next to him or her.

[Fiyahstarter]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

Sometimes. But rarely. More often it is like the Pharisee thanking God he or she is not like the rest of the world sitting next to him or her.

Rarely? Not my experience. I know plenty of sweet-spirited conservatively-dressed Pentecostals.