What If God Judges Us Like We Judge Others

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

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You can insist on interpretations that lack understanding all you like, this will not make God into satan, no matter how hard you try....

I am reading what is there. I am not adding to it or twisting it. My interpretations are different from yours. Which of us lacks understanding is a matter of opinion.

[bbyrd009]

Originally Posted by Timmy

I am reading what is there. I am not adding to it or twisting it. My interpretations are different from yours. Which of us lacks understanding is a matter of opinion.

No, you are not adding to it or consciously twisting, I agree. There is no need to seek more favorable interpretations when you understand that God is not the bad guy here, like you seem intent on proving. I don't know that God didn't actively do something to harden Pharoah's heart, true enough; but I am aware that God most likely did not need to do anything but exist for Pharoah's heart to be hardened, considering that he was surely convinced that he was God, hence, "I will harden Pharoah's heart." (translated, "I will harden Pharoah's heart, regardless.") Pharoah was able to soften his own heart the moment he was able to admit that he was not God, which he was not going to do.

Your interpretation seems to lead you to the conclusion that God was not acting correctly here, because the story as written does not comply with your understanding? Then see that either you are right, or God is (ignoring my view here entirely)--what's it gonna be?

Ok, and let's drop the babies thing for now, if I am to be made into a baby killer over it. The bottom line there is they were warned, and could avail themselves of God's protection, it was not a secret. Skip over the parent's responsibility all you like. I do not mean "reward" in the way a Christian might mean it; I mean that physical death is meaningless to human understanding.

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

No, you are not adding to it or consciously twisting, I agree. There is no need to seek more favorable interpretations when you understand that God is not the bad guy here, like you seem intent on proving. I don't know that God didn't actively do something to harden Pharoah's heart, true enough; but I am aware that God most likely did not need to do anything but exist for Pharoah's heart to be hardened, considering that he was surely convinced that he was God, hence, "I will harden Pharoah's heart." (translated, "I will harden Pharoah's heart, regardless.") Pharoah was able to soften his own heart the moment he was able to admit that he was not God, which he was not going to do.

Your interpretation seems to lead you to the conclusion that God was not acting correctly here, because the story as written does not comply with your understanding? Then see that either you are right, or God is (ignoring my view here entirely)--what's it gonna be?

Ok, and let's drop the babies thing for now, if I am to be made into a baby killer over it. The bottom line there is they were warned, and could avail themselves of God's protection, it was not a secret. Skip over the parent's responsibility all you like. I do not mean "reward" in the way a Christian might mean it; I mean that physical death is meaningless to human understanding.

Well, as for the thread topic, I still maintain that very few humans would judge fellow humans anywhere near as harshly as God is shown to judge us in the Bible.

[The Matt]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Well, as for the thread topic, I still maintain that very few humans would judge fellow humans anywhere near as harshly as God is shown to judge us in the Bible.

What if a grown man would decide to take a child's life because he or she is black? Wouldn't that be at least as harsh?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by The Matt

What if a grown man would decide to take a child's life because he or she is black? Wouldn't that be at least as harsh?

That would be pretty close.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Ok, and let's drop the babies thing for now, if I am to be made into a baby killer over it. The bottom line there is they were warned, and could avail themselves of God's protection, it was not a secret. Skip over the parent's responsibility all you like. I do not mean "reward" in the way a Christian might mean it; I mean that physical death is meaningless to human understanding.

Didn't the Egyptians believe that Pharaoh was god?

[Timmy]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

Didn't the Egyptians believe that Pharaoh was god?

Yes, that's my understanding. Or, at least, that's what they were told to believe.