Responding to a Trinitarian

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

The trinitarian doctrine does not fully believe that in Christ dwells ALL the fullness of the Godhead bodily. They believe He is deity, but in their description of Him, He is a lesser deity than the Father, and not fully God. Makes a big difference, doesn't it.

I experienced this myself among the so-called tolerant trinitarians. They called Oneness heretical and declared us lost. For such tolerant people, they sure are intolerant.

I believe the trinitarian claim is co-equality?

[UnTraditional]

Originally Posted by jfrog

I believe the trinitarian claim is co-equality?

The "claim" is equality, but the fact is that they hold Jesus as a lesser deity. Take the time to read all they say about Jesus, and how they speak openly how Jesus is not the Father. In other words, with their lips they speak equality, but the totality of their doctrine is far from it.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by UnTraditional

The "claim" is equality, but the fact is that they hold Jesus as a lesser deity. Take the time to read all they say about Jesus, and how they speak openly how Jesus is not the Father. In other words, with their lips they speak equality, but the totality of their doctrine is far from it.

While I'm all for getting to the bottom of what people believe I think most the time people don't really listen to what the other side is saying. Are you sure that's not what you are doing?

[UnTraditional]

Originally Posted by jfrog

While I'm all for getting to the bottom of what people believe I think most the time people don't really listen to what the other side is saying. Are you sure that's not what you are doing?

That is a good response. The truth is, I did study it while I went into the Reformed church for about a year. And after my studies, I found out that what they say in one arena did not add up to what they said in others. It was a double talk in this area. So, I did study, tried to buy into it was the zeal of a zealot, and found out that what they said and what the Bible said differed, as well as what they said with what they said.