Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad?

jfrog · #1 05-12-2012, 06:05 AM

So anyone care to explain to me what is wrong with endorsing gay marriage/civil unions?

Cindy · #2 05-12-2012, 07:55 AM

It's like approving of homosexuality.

jfrog · #3 05-12-2012, 11:57 AM

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It's like approving of homosexuality.

Is allowing homosexual doctors approving of homosexuality? What about homosexual lawyers? (Both of these have to be liscensed by the state also). What about giving driver's liscenses to homosexuals? Isn't that approving of homosexuality? What about allowing them to eat in our restaurants? Is that approving of homosexuality.

I think we have a bad mentality here. Approving and endorsing of a homosexuals rights to do something is not approving of homosexuality. So I want to ask how does approving of homosexual marriage go beyond simple approval of homosexual marriage and into actual approval of homosexuality?

Cindy · #4 05-12-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Is allowing homosexual doctors approving of homosexuality? What about homosexual lawyers? (Both of these have to be liscensed by the state also). What about giving driver's liscenses to homosexuals? Isn't that approving of homosexuality? What about allowing them to eat in our restaurants? Is that approving of homosexuality.

I think we have a bad mentality here. Approving and endorsing of a homosexuals rights to do something is not approving of homosexuality. So I want to ask how does approving of homosexual marriage go beyond simple approval of homosexual marriage and into actual approval of homosexuality?

That was not what my post meant, JF. You asked a question, that was my answer. Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad? I am assuming that you meant for politicians. If so, it's like they are approving of homosexuality, which to Christians and even some non christians wrong or a sin.

jfrog · #5 05-12-2012, 04:43 PM

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That was not what my post meant, JF. You asked a question, that was my answer. Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad? I am assuming that you meant for politicians. If so, it's like they are approving of homosexuality, which to Christians and even some non christians wrong or a sin.

And what my post meant was that your answer that it's like approving of homosexuality didn't make sense to me. I'm willing to hear an explaination on how its more like approving of homosexuality than any of the other things I mentioned.

Supporting the right for homosexuals to marry or have civil unions is simply not the same thing as supporting homosexuality. I'm still willing to hear arguments on how it is. I hear often that it is and it seems everyone has bought it hook line and sinker without giving it any thought because not one person is addressing that question.

deacon blues · #6 05-12-2012, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

And what my post meant was that your answer that it's like approving of homosexuality didn't make sense to me. I'm willing to hear an explaination on how its more like approving of homosexuality than any of the other things I mentioned.

Supporting the right for homosexuals to marry or have civil unions is simply not the same thing as supporting homosexuality. I'm still willing to hear arguments on how it is. I hear often that it is and it seems everyone has bought it hook line and sinker without giving it any thought because not one person is addressing that question.

Let's see...Who has bought what hook, line and sinker? Thousands of years of almost unanimous belief that marriage is one man and one woman and then sodomites come along and say its not fair that they can't be marries so we just automatically cave in and say they're right? Or could it be that your messiah president has crossed the line and now you're stuck having to defend him/it?

This one is going to cost him politically. It might cause the media to tingle, it might cause Hollywood to right fatter checks, but there are 32 states that have written some form of defense of marriage act or constitutional amendment or a ban on gay marriage. 32 states against and only about 6 for and the other states with nothing either way. The presidential election is not a strictly popular vote. Its a state by state election. It was a stupid political move and its going to cost hime some states.

So again what makes gay marriage good? What makes polygamy good? What about a man who says he and his dog have consentual relations and love each other? Some woman and her horse? Perversion takes on many forms frog...who are we to judge who should or shouldn't get "married"?

RevDWW · #7 05-12-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Is allowing homosexual doctors approving of homosexuality? What about homosexual lawyers? (Both of these have to be liscensed by the state also). What about giving driver's liscenses to homosexuals? Isn't that approving of homosexuality? What about allowing them to eat in our restaurants? Is that approving of homosexuality.

I think we have a bad mentality here. Approving and endorsing of a homosexuals rights to do something is not approving of homosexuality. So I want to ask how does approving of homosexual marriage go beyond simple approval of homosexual marriage and into actual approval of homosexuality?

It's not a bad mentality. We don't necessarily have to know if a doctor, lawyer, or Indian Chief is a homosexual. But we know if two men are marrying each other they are.

Giving two men the right to marry each other is giving legitimacy to homosexuality.

jfrog · #8 05-12-2012, 08:09 PM

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It's not a bad mentality. We don't necessarily have to know if a doctor, lawyer, or Indian Chief is a homosexual. But we know if two men are marrying each other they are.

Giving two men the right to marry each other is giving legitimacy to homosexuality.

Yall keep on repeating yourselves. It's not enough to loudly shout repitevely that gay marriage legitmizes homosexuality. How does it go from legitimizing homosexual marriage to legitimizing homosexuality? There's a step missing there.

I think that not having laws banning homosexuality gives legitimacy to homosexuality. Giving homosexuals the right to marry or have civil unions only gives legiimacy to such marriages and not the lifestyle itself.

RevDWW · #9 05-12-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jfrog

Yall keep on repeating yourselves. It's not enough to loudly shout repitevely that gay marriage legitmizes homosexuality. How does it go from legitimizing homosexual marriage to legitimizing homosexuality? There's a step missing there.

I think that not having laws banning homosexuality gives legitimacy to homosexuality. Giving homosexuals the right to marry or have civil unions only gives legiimacy to such marriages and not the lifestyle itself.

Gay marriage is not separate from the gay lifestyle. No gay lifestyle no need for gay marriage.

Jermyn Davidson · #10 05-13-2012, 02:30 PM

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It's not a bad mentality. We don't necessarily have to know if a doctor, lawyer, or Indian Chief is a homosexual. But we know if two men are marrying each other they are.

Giving two men the right to marry each other is giving legitimacy to homosexuality.

Define, "legitimacy."

A Democrat President endorsing gay marriage shouldn't come as a shock to anyone.

I can separate the role of the American government vs. the role of Christianity in the lives of individual Americans.

This is pretty much the same argument that a Christian uses to knowingly cast a vote for a pagan, luke-warm, milque toast mormon for President.