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Old 05-12-2012, 08:04 PM
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Re: Why is endorsing gay marriage/civil unions bad

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Personally, I have two main thoughts on this issue, and they are surprisingly liberal:

1. I wish churches had jurisdiction over marriage ceremonies. Religious ceremonies should be held for those who want them, and everyone else can form secular (civil) unions. Giving this power back to the church and having the state only take care of paperwork and names and dates is the way it should be, IMO.
2. I don't really care WHO wants to form a civil union--whether its for the sake of sharing a household, sharing incomes, sharing dependents or sharing a bed--I really don't care. That's a legal issue that has nothing at all to do with the sanctity of God-ordained marriage between a man and a woman. IMO, if roommates want to file a civil union for the 4-8 years they attend college so they can share household expenses, etc., they should be able to do so. It's a practical matter.

When I was about 13, we lived next door to a monogamous gay couple. One of them worked at the hospital as a nurse, the other one was a businessman. They had two very fat, spoiled, sweet basset hounds. I don't remember my parents ever being rude to them or complaining about them living next door. I certainly was never bothered by them, and I find it interesting that my parents didn't seem particularly bothered by them either.
My point is: I don't see the point of Christians digging in their heels and trying to prevent people from sharing bank accounts and filing joint income tax returns.
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One comment though: What you have described in the bolded is marriage
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One comment though: What you have described in the bolded is marriage
I don't agree. A wedding is a celebration of a marriage, and a marriage is a covenant. A marriage is making a commitment and taking vows before God and man(e.g., a wedding)--and then keeping those promises. Business is part of the package like having children is often part of the package, but that isn't all it's about.

That's like saying that couples who live together are already married. No, marriage is about declared commitment and follow-through.

My point with making the business part vague is more to say that if two friends who have no romantic interest at all wanted to live in the same household and share income and file joint returns, why couldn't they? A civil union is a business arrangement. I don't really care who enters into a business arrangement together or why, as long as it isn't for criminal purposes.

From a purely political perspective, conservatively speaking, ANY adults who want to do *business*, save on their taxes, share a bank account and throw a party to celebrate the arrangement should have the freedom to do so. Making homosexual unions illegal does NOTHING to discourage homosexuality. So why are we concerned with it? Are we trying to answer a sin problem with legislation?
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One comment though: What you have described in the bolded is marriage
Then someone needs to educate you on what marriage means.
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Then someone needs to educate you on what marriage means.
Sorry... I found this a bit funny and thought of it when I read your post:

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