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Old 05-15-2012, 10:13 PM
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Re: Repentance, Holiness, and the Church

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Next thing you're going to say is that mormons are Christian too.
"God knows the heart."
Can you say that all Mormons are "lost?"
We can examine all the forms,
until we are blue in the face,
but God will judge by what is in one's heart,
I'm sure you agree.
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Old 05-15-2012, 10:21 PM
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"God knows the heart."
Can you say that all Mormons are "lost?"
We can examine all the forms,
until we are blue in the face,
but God will judge by what is in one's heart,
I'm sure you agree.
Show me a mormon who is born again and I'll show you someone who's not mormon. Same with a muslim.
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Old 05-16-2012, 07:45 AM
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Show me a mormon who is born again and I'll show you someone who's not mormon. Same with a muslim.
Yes, yes. The Mormons, the Muslims, the Hare Krishnas, Catholics, all have a similiar claim. It becomes meaningless words. Either one changes their mind, or they do not. I just checked, and God did not send me to judge Mormons. Most of the ones I've met seem to be producing good fruit. I'm looking for a Christian that has changed their mind. Maybe there are only 4?

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Old 05-16-2012, 04:39 PM
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Yes, yes. The Mormons, the Muslims, the Hare Krishnas, Catholics, all have a similiar claim. It becomes meaningless words. Either one changes their mind, or they do not. I just checked, and God did not send me to judge Mormons. Most of the ones I've met seem to be producing good fruit. I'm looking for a Christian that has changed their mind. Maybe there are only 4?
If you are His, He did send you to preach the gospel. In fact it is a command is it not? Or do you think an evangelistic life is what Jesus commanded i.e. doing good works, praying before a meal, listening to K-love? Muslims and mormons both produce good fruit from what they were planted of, but they do not produce good fruit of God. I'd venture to say that very many of those who call themselves Christian (in the west at least) produce good fruit of what was planted in them too. To bad it wasn't the gospel seed that produced them.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:02 AM
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Yes, yes. The Mormons, the Muslims, the Hare Krishnas, Catholics, all have a similiar claim. It becomes meaningless words. Either one changes their mind, or they do not. I just checked, and God did not send me to judge Mormons. Most of the ones I've met seem to be producing good fruit. I'm looking for a Christian that has changed their mind. Maybe there are only 4?
Ex-Mormon here (well, Mormon as a child following parent's search). We weren't around long enough to fully comply with their doctrine.

However, I would second your statement bolded above. Those I knew were solid in the faith and daily spiritual routines. I never once heard a word spoken from their leadership or any of their members against those of another denomination, let alone that others were "lost."
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:20 AM
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Ex-Mormon here (well, Mormon as a child following parent's search). We weren't around long enough to fully comply with their doctrine.

However, I would second your statement bolded above. Those I knew were solid in the faith and daily spiritual routines. I never once heard a word spoken from their leadership or any of their members against those of another denomination, let alone that others were "lost."
Ya, never heard that from a Muslim either.
Christians seem to be the only one with that problem.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:31 AM
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Ya, never heard that from a Muslim either.
Christians seem to be the only one with that problem.
You sir are ignorant of muslims then. I have to agree with the other poster who said you have no clue as to what you're talking about.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:45 AM
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You sir are ignorant of muslims then. I have to agree with the other poster who said you have no clue as to what you're talking about.
I have been living among them off and on for 30 years.
The differences between them and you are minimal,
discounting the ones on Fox news, of course.
Funny, they say the exact same thing
about my knowledge of Christians, lol.

But surely my posts read as generalizing
about all Muslims (or Christians)
when I mean them to be applied to
"only a few."
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:47 AM
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You sir are ignorant of muslims then. I have to agree with the other poster who said you have no clue as to what you're talking about.
And yet God says "Ishmael was blessed of God."
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