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Old 05-17-2012, 07:31 AM
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Ya, never heard that from a Muslim either.
Christians seem to be the only one with that problem.
You sir are ignorant of muslims then. I have to agree with the other poster who said you have no clue as to what you're talking about.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:45 AM
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You sir are ignorant of muslims then. I have to agree with the other poster who said you have no clue as to what you're talking about.
I have been living among them off and on for 30 years.
The differences between them and you are minimal,
discounting the ones on Fox news, of course.
Funny, they say the exact same thing
about my knowledge of Christians, lol.

But surely my posts read as generalizing
about all Muslims (or Christians)
when I mean them to be applied to
"only a few."
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:00 AM
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I have been living among them off and on for 30 years.
The differences between them and you are minimal,
discounting the ones on Fox news, of course.
Funny, they say the exact same thing
about my knowledge of Christians, lol.

But surely my posts read as generalizing
about all Muslims (or Christians)
when I mean them to be applied to
"only a few."
You've been living among them in the US or the west? Or have you lived among them in an islamist country?
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:10 AM
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You've been living among them in the US or the west? Or have you lived among them in an islamist country?
Both; all. See you tonight, God willing.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:47 AM
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You sir are ignorant of muslims then. I have to agree with the other poster who said you have no clue as to what you're talking about.
And yet God says "Ishmael was blessed of God."
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:50 AM
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And yet God says "Ishmael was blessed of God."
he was blessed of God but he was not the seed of promise. Nor did he inherit his fathers flocks and herds and wealth.

do muslims today believe in circumcision?
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:02 AM
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he was blessed of God but he was not the seed of promise. Nor did he inherit his fathers flocks and herds and wealth.

do muslims today believe in circumcision?
Almost out of time til tonite.

As to the first, just to be contrary now,
the cliched morals of the inheritors of wealth
might be illuminated here; you are pointing out to me who
in the equation suffered for having done nothing wrong-
-which doesn't mean that there aren't other valid reflections there.

And circumcision I don't get the point? No, they do not--do you?
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Old 05-17-2012, 08:08 AM
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Almost out of time til tonite.

As to the first, just to be contrary now,
the cliched morals of the inheritors of wealth
might be illuminated here; you are pointing out to me who
in the equation suffered for having done nothing wrong-
-which doesn't mean that there aren't other valid reflections there.

And circumcision I don't get the point? No, they do not--do you?
He didnt suffer, you said ishmael was blessed of God. God multuplied him.

Im just curious since the quran doesnt talk about circumsicion, why are they not following after father abraham and the Covenant that God made with Him. is there a reason they dont do it? even though ishmael was circumcized.

Cause many muslims date there line through Ishmael
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Old 05-17-2012, 11:57 AM
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He didnt suffer, you said ishmael was blessed of God. God multuplied him.

Im just curious since the quran doesnt talk about circumsicion, why are they not following after father abraham and the Covenant that God made with Him. is there a reason they dont do it? even though ishmael was circumcized.

Cause many muslims date there line through Ishmael
I guess he didn't maybe, in the end.

Good Q's; I don't know.
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Old 05-17-2012, 07:51 AM
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And yet God says "Ishmael was blessed of God."
And yet Ishmael wasn't a muslim.

It's very hard to do this when you won't stay on topic.
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