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[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

That's just it-- before the State stepped in, there weren't any charges!

noe you didnt look it up the assault had to do with undercover cops. that was physically beating his friend. he jumped in to help his friend. had the cops revealed who they where there would have been no issue, but they didnt. all he saw was 2 guys beating up his buddy and he came to his aid....

he was charged with assaulting the cops, it was dropped because the cops failed to show identificaton. Had they shown it there would have been no confrontation.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by acerrak

noe you didnt look it up the assault had to do with undercover cops. that was physically beating his friend. he jumped in to help his friend. had the cops revealed who they where there would have been no issue, but they didnt. all he saw was 2 guys beating up his buddy and he came to his aid....

he was charged with assaulting the cops, it was dropped because the cops failed to show identificaton. Had they shown it there would have been no confrontation.

This was not a response to what you are talking about-- I am talking about the Martin case and you are talking zim's police record. zim also had a domestic violence report filed against him, but it was dropped too.

I don't think zim looked at Martin and had the intent to kill, but it is a strong possibility that it was his prejudice that started the confrontation.

Also, zim didn't live in the neighborhood where he killed Martin, making his death all the more non-sensical.

At the end of the day, I am glad it's looking like it is going to trial.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I don't think zim looked at Martin and had the intent to kill, but it is a strong possibility that it was his prejudice that started the confrontation.

no intent to kill no second degree murder..... just saying.

prejudice in what way? did he show any ratial based when confronting this man?

I am not saying any of what you are saying, but WHY would you not give the kid the benefit of the doubt? He is the victim, the boy who died getting his brother a pack of candy from the store?

who said the boy is the victim? I have down loaded the 911 mp3 where zimmerman is screaming for help. You can hear it through the walls of the people making the 911 call.

what i see is zimmerman approached the kid on the grounds of what are you doing here. according to his girl friend zimmerman asked that question twice to trayvon.
then the next thing we hear is zimmerman's scream on a audio

Then we have 2 witness's and we have the doctors report.

In our court system a man is innocent till proven guilty. Im not gonna give the boy the benifit of the doubt, cause of the wounds on mr zimmerman. If there was no wounds on zimmerman then i definatly would give martin benifit. But when the man has been verified by doctors to have a cuts on his head and a broken nose.

I mean what more do you want to call it?

We had a hoodie awarness day close to where i live over this. and thats great. people in hoodies isnt thugs. However this boy in my personal view attacked the man when confronted. Zimmerman yelled for help 1 minute later the boy was dead.

the only thing the prosecution can do to persuade my mind in this case is trying to proove that zimmerman had his gun out waving it in martins face. other than that the fact of buying ice tea and skittles has little effect to the case.

Also, zim didn't live in the neighborhood where he killed Martin, making his death all the more non-sensical.

yes He does, his house or town home what ever you want to call it is in that gated community. where do you get your info?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by acerrak

yes He does, his house or town home what ever you want to call it is in that gated community. where do you get your info?

My friend, zim DID NOT live there-- which again, makes the whole incident even more non-sensical and tragic.

zim lived in Sanford, but not in that neighborhood.

Martin didn't live there either-- he was visiting his father who lives there.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

My friend, zim DID NOT live there-- which again, makes the whole incident even more non-sensical and tragic.

zim lived in Sanford, but not in that neighborhood.

Martin didn't live there either-- he was visiting his father who lives there.

you should see the diagram layout of the gated community. it shows the club house, it shows where he parked his truck. it shows where zimmerman lived it shows where trayvons Dad's girl friends house was at, it showed where he was shot at.

The black man they interviewed from the gated community was his neighbor and lives there.(the one who said Zimmerman wasnt a racist) something smells fishy on your end.

from the defense attornies statment.

Zimmerman maintains that he shot Martin in self-defense under Florida's "stand-your-ground" law because the teenager was beating him up after confronting him about following Martin. Zimmerman had called 911 to complain about suspicious activity. Martin was walking from a convenience store to the home of his father's fiancée in the same gated community where Zimmerman lived.

That is factual it seems like your on the media band wagon making up things as you go...


as for as the prejudice comment, cmon. I dont think he was predjudice. If we say he is predjudice then we will make him out to be a racist.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by acerrak

you should see the diagram layout of the gated community. it shows the club house, it shows where he parked his truck. it shows where zimmerman lived it shows where trayvons Dad's girl friends house was at, it showed where he was shot at.

The black man they interviewed from the gated community was his neighbor and lives there.(the one who said Zimmerman wasnt a racist) something smells fishy on your end.

from the defense attornies statment.


That is factual it seems like your on the media band wagon making up things as you go...


as for as the prejudice comment, cmon. I dont think he was predjudice. If we say he is predjudice then we will make him out to be a racist.

I live 30 minutes from where this unfolded.

zim didn't live in the community where he killed Martin.

Can a person have a prejudice and not be racist?


The accusations of zim being racist were short-lived and never held any water. The NATIONAL OUTRAGE surrounding this case is that the local police decided to not investigate this senseless death.

Of course, there is an element of race involved in what happened, but doesn't mean that zim is racist. However, I do think he acted out of prejudice.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

I live 30 minutes from where this unfolded.

zim didn't live in the community where he killed Martin.

Can a person have a prejudice and not be racist?


The accusations of zim being racist were short-lived and never held any water. The NATIONAL OUTRAGE surrounding this case is that the local police decided to not investigate this senseless death.

Of course, there is an element of race involved in what happened, but doesn't mean that zim is racist. However, I do think he acted out of prejudice.

i dont care if you live with in five miles from him, or went out for afternoon tea with the guy. The police statments say it. the attornies defend it. even the prosecution admits it..

Prosecutors To Argue George Zimmerman "Profiled" And "Confronted" Trayvon Martin.
-where ... In the gated community Zimmerman lived in because he did not recognize martin.

again your just believing what the media tells you. the records have went public. do a search on this stuff...

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Can a person have a prejudice and not be racist?

depends on the subject. however you want to look at it one will make it a predjudice thing tword blacks, because he was the black thug in the hoodie (so to speak).

and once you isolate it down to race, then it becomes a racist thing. it is why the fbi has been debating about charging him with a hate crime.

look i have nothing against black people, but if you go look at the statistics of the break down of crime in america, who commits most of it?

If i say the majority of crime in america is done by blacks, i am labeled as predjudice or a racist even though my facts are true.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by acerrak

no intent to kill no second degree murder..... just saying.

prejudice in what way? did he show any ratial based when confronting this man?

Prejudice and racism are two different things.

Do we agree on this point?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Prejudice and racism are two different things.

Do we agree on this point?

FBI records show that NONE of the witnesses stated that they thought zimmy was racist.

However, "Serino described Zimmerman as overzealous and as having a "little hero complex," but not as a racist," the FBI wrote."

"Serino believed that Zimmerman's actions were not based on Martin's skin color rather based on his attire, the total circumstances of the encounter and the previous burglary suspects in the community," according to the FBI's notes."

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...154730328.html