Creflo Dollar

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by HebrewPent

It is a shame that the police got involved with a father trying to discipline his child. Creflo, like any decent father, was not going to let his 15 year-old daughter walk out the house to go to some party and come back to the house when she felt like it.

I can't imagine my husband EVER choking or slapping one of our children--no matter what they were trying to do.

I never cease to be appalled at what Christian people will defend in the name of "discipline."

I wonder if the father of the prodigal son slapped and choked his son in an effort to stop his foolish plans?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I can't imagine my husband EVER choking or slapping one of our children--no matter what they were trying to do.

I never cease to be appalled at what Christian people will defend in the name of "discipline."

I wonder if the father of the prodigal son slapped and choked his son in an effort to stop his foolish plans?

My Dad threw my brother down our stairs when he continued to back talked my Dad.

My Mom threw a plate at my brother when he continued to disrespect her cooking.


At the time when these events happened, it may have seemed extreme for someone on the outside looking in, but I can tell you that my brother deserved both acts of discipline and he is a better man today for it.


I stand by Pastor Creflo Dollar on this one.

I wouldn't let satan have my daughter or son passively. Sometimes, love can be tough.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

My Dad threw my brother down our stairs when he continued to back talked my Dad.

My Mom threw a plate at my brother when he continued to disrespect her cooking.


At the time when these events happened, it may have seemed extreme for someone on the outside looking in, but I can tell you that my brother deserved both acts of discipline and he is a better man today for it.


I stand by Pastor Creflo Dollar on this one.

I wouldn't let satan have my daughter or son passively. Sometimes, love can be tough.

Your father and mother needed some training in parenting as most parents do, adults that do such things including Creflo are immature in parenting. They may be mature in other areas, but their parenting needs help, when it gets to this point they have already missed the ball much earlier in parenting their children.

We all miss it in some areas, and by the time we get it together our children have already grown up. Hopefully, we are able to grow some beyond our own childhood and add some growth to our children and as result our family tree matures, at least, generationally.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

I can't imagine my husband EVER choking or slapping one of our children--no matter what they were trying to do.

I never cease to be appalled at what Christian people will defend in the name of "discipline."

I wonder if the father of the prodigal son slapped and choked his son in an effort to stop his foolish plans?

Amen!!!

[Jermyn Davidson]

Regardless of their faults, my brother is a better man today.

I don't think Pastor Dollar choked his daughter.


To imply or state that discipline should not have to get physical with teenagers may be truthful, but it is not always reality.


Seriously, there are some children and some teens who are in need of physical discipline-- not advocating choking or abuse, but physical discipline is sometimes necessary.

If my 15 year old son or daughter demanded that I let her out of the house at 10:00pm, let alone 1:00am and then tried to force her way out, I would physically stop him or her.

Then I'd give them the phone so that they can call whoever they want to call so that they can tell whomever all about how their father's love.

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Regardless of their faults, my brother is a better man today.

I don't think Pastor Dollar choked his daughter.


To imply or state that discipline should not have to get physical with teenagers may be truthful, but it is not always reality.


Seriously, there are some children and some teens who are in need of physical discipline-- not advocating choking or abuse, but physical discipline is sometimes necessary.

If my 15 year old son or daughter demanded that I let her out of the house at 10:00pm, let alone 1:00am and then tried to force her way out, I would physically stop him or her.

Then I'd give them the phone so that they can call whoever they want to call so that they can tell whomever all about how their father's love.

I understand that we live in an imperfect world, but parents must be very careful when applying physical punishment. I understand that even with the best of parenting some children rebel, however, we should not give them fuel for their anger. Parent anger gives justification for rebellion. Parenting is best done from early age with love and firmness. Still some children still go thru a time of rebellion, some for a lifetime.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Regardless of their faults, my brother is a better man today.

I don't think Pastor Dollar choked his daughter.

According to the 911 call from his OLDER daughter (not the one who was choked), he did choke her. Marks on her neck supported the story.

In the church community, this kind of behavior is often tolerated; it shouldn't be. The ignorance should be educated and the abuse should be reported.

A lot of parents in past eras "disciplined" out of ignorance--they were never educated on a better way. I seriously doubt that your brother being thrown down a flight of stairs did anything wonderful for him. Your parents probably had a lot of good qualities that cancelled out those traumatic events--and those GOOD qualities were responsible for your brother becoming a better man.