Is OPism anti-intellectual?

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

No. The answer to the topic is NO. There are lots of UPCers with PHd. Yes there are a lot of stupid and uneducated Oneness folks but Oneness Pentecostalism and anti-intellectualism are not synonymous

Congratulations to you and your son! We encourage education at our church

Thanks.

Something besides a Doctor of Divinity from Urshan Prax?

Serious question.... I mean none of our kids (400+ member church) has any degree except my son who will have a BS in computer science engineering in Dec and one girl who got a BS in nursing a few years back. Some of the kids play around a little in junior college... but bible college is the only thing taken seriously... Or bridal college if for a girl

When kids don't marry by 21 there are all kinds of unkind things said... even homosexuality is sometimes rumored. Maybe I live somewhere scary bad but I would have thought it more common.

And I thought Bro. Bernard was the only UPCI preacher with a Juris Doctorate.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

...bible college is the only thing taken seriously... Or bridal college if for a girl

My sister uses this term all the time. It always grates on my nerves, so let me respond as gracefully as possible. It depends on the kid, frankly. My daughter is planning to go into missions, and we've actually discussed with her the idea that she will do better in ministry if she either remains single or marries a like minded person. (scripture ref. used - the one about a woman who is single caring for the things of the Lord, and a married woman caring for the things of the world and how she might please her husband) However, if some girl does want to go to Bible college for a year or two for the sole purpose of finding a Christian husband, that's perfectly acceptable and even respectable. I find it odd that so many people find that something to deride. Some women do just want to settle down, love and support their husband, have babies and keep house. I know it isn't popular or cool, but it's still a very honorable vocation for ANY woman to choose. I agree that it's nice to have a backup plan, but that doesn't have to happen young. I have a friend who is married with 2 kids who is getting her teaching degree. My sister got her degree after her boys were grown. It is more difficult after you have children, but not impossible.

When kids don't marry by 21 there are all kinds of unkind things said... even homosexuality is sometimes rumored. Maybe I live somewhere scary bad but I would have thought it more common.

Not around here. People start to wonder if they're "okay" or if they'll ever marry once they dip into their 30's, though... The dating pool does shrink considerably and exponentially as you get older.

[Titus2woman]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

My sister uses this term all the time. It always grates on my nerves, so let me respond as gracefully as possible. It depends on the kid, frankly. My daughter is planning to go into missions, and we've actually discussed with her the idea that she will do better in ministry if she either remains single or marries a like minded person. (scripture ref. used - the one about a woman who is single caring for the things of the Lord, and a married woman caring for the things of the world and how she might please her husband) However, if some girl does want to go to Bible college for a year or two for the sole purpose of finding a Christian husband, that's perfectly acceptable and even respectable. I find it odd that so many people find that something to deride. Some women do just want to settle down, love and support their husband, have babies and keep house. I know it isn't popular or cool, but it's still a very honorable vocation for ANY woman to choose. I agree that it's nice to have a backup plan, but that doesn't have to happen young. I have a friend who is married with 2 kids who is getting her teaching degree. My sister got her degree after her boys were grown. It is more difficult after you have children, but not impossible.



Not around here. People start to wonder if they're "okay" or if they'll ever marry once they dip into their 30's, though... The dating pool does shrink considerably and exponentially as you get older.

Oh was not knocking bible college if that was how it came across... we actually discussed it with our youngest but he really did not feel a call to ministry in the traditional sense. So we financially supported another kid from our church who was having trouble making tuition and expenses at TBC.

I was just surprised that my son's choice did not seem respected by many and the idea that getting an education would lead him into sin was a completely new concept to me... I feel like if they have not got it for themselves by that age keeping them at home is not going to really going to be the difference... Realizing I'm generalizing and that some kids do need the extra time... but I felt like I knew my kid.

Glad to hear that this is not everywhere... or not so much any more... we are kind of backwards here.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Oh was not knocking bible college if that was how it came across... we actually discussed it with our youngest but he really did not feel a call to ministry in the traditional sense. So we financially supported another kid from our church who was having trouble making tuition and expenses at TBC.

I was just surprised that my son's choice did not seem respected by many and the idea that getting an education would lead him into sin was a completely new concept to me... I feel like if they have not got it for themselves by that age keeping them at home is not going to really going to be the difference... Realizing I'm generalizing and that some kids do need the extra time... but I felt like I knew my kid.

Glad to hear that this is not everywhere... or not so much any more... we are kind of backwards here.

I'm surprised that the choice wasn't respected--but not all that surprised, if you know what I mean.

In fairness, I am aware of places that are backward enough to be suspicious of anyone who doesn't go to work at the local sawmill or grocery store and get married by the ripe old age of 21ish. The Missouri hills, boothill, NC, and AR mountain country come to mind.

As an aside, congratulations on having a child who is pursuing a Ph.D. You must be (should be) a very proud Mama, to have raised a son who loves learning and is committed and steady enough to make that kind of degree a reality.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Thanks.

Something besides a Doctor of Divinity from Urshan Prax?

Serious question.... I mean none of our kids (400+ member church) has any degree except my son who will have a BS in computer science engineering in Dec and one girl who got a BS in nursing a few years back. Some of the kids play around a little in junior college... but bible college is the only thing taken seriously... Or bridal college if for a girl

When kids don't marry by 21 there are all kinds of unkind things said... even homosexuality is sometimes rumored. Maybe I live somewhere scary bad but I would have thought it more common.

And I thought Bro. Bernard was the only UPCI preacher with a Juris Doctorate.

a doctorate from where ever in whatever field of study is good including theology.