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Originally Posted by Dordrecht
Good morning!
The only reason I come back here is
because you put words in my mouth.
I never said the pastor has ALL THE POWER,
I never mentioned TITHES going to the pastor.
You either did not read my posts and are making things up or
you are just a plain liar about what I posted.
it's very difficult to discuss something with
a person who makes up things to make himself
look good and "spiritual".
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Dordrecht, I posted this but I never said that YOU said it did I? I never put words in your mouth. Why don't you just explain yourself a little better so that my responses will be more to the point.
For a recap here...we are discussing pastors and is it biblical for one pastor to one congregation. I asked why are we paying people (pastors in particular) to do a work for Christ? You said:
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Originally Posted by Dordrecht
If a person is in full time ministry he should get paid.
How else is he going to put food on the table?
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Your definition of pastor and the bible's definition is what? I have been asking you what are the scriptural references that pastors use to justify their position over the church. That is what I have been asking. You have yet to give me any scriptural answer. You will not give me a biblical definition of what a pastor is or his scriptural duties. You came here calling people on this forum crooks, labeled this thread as a "pastor bashing" thread and now you are calling me a liar. I do not appreciate that at all!
Do you deliberately skirt questions and not give adequate answers so that someone has to assume you agree with the current mindset on biblical matters, then turn around and call people liars and accuse them of being thought of as spiritually superior to everybody else?
I am going to clear this up right now. When I asked you to give me scriptural description of what a pastor's duties are and what he biblically does to earn what you termed a decent wage, you answered this:
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Originally Posted by Dordrecht
I have said I am out of here.
You know what the duties are.
Check your bible.
This discussion goes nowhere.
Good night.
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I answered:
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Originally Posted by AreYouReady?
If you were out of here, why then did you come back and give me a non answer?
I did check my Bible and there is nothing in the NT that gives a pastor all the power over the people that is currently given in the OP organized church system. There is nothing that says the tithe goes to the pastor. I want to read where you see the connection...from your pov  |
Where do you read that I said
you said any of this? Look over the whole thread. You will not find it.
That's the problem here. You will not give any scriptural references or even how or why you think they should get paid a decent wage. You don't even state what a decent wage is.
What you will find are your non answers and my assumptions that you must believe the accepted notion throughout the OP community that pastors get the "tithes", or at the very least a goodly portion of "tithe money" because you refuse to give clarity to what you are thinking or believing.
So how about you actually giving viable answers so people can understand your pov before you deny anything or call people liars.
I am no liar and for you to publicly accuse me of being one is
falsely accusing me.
For the record, I know where the duties of the pastor originated, why he is placed in such a lofty position of power and why he is allowed to make rules for the church he pastors. Such duties were not given to him from the bible either.
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