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Old 11-02-2012, 08:51 AM
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Sometimes we speak (or ask/pray) something and it happens. Sometimes it doesn't happen. When it does, we are impressed and we remember it, talk about about it. We (sometimes) believe it happened because of what we spoke or prayed. What would I have said? Most likely "wow!" or something. It would be a somewhat amazing coincidence. (IMO )

When we speak or pray something and it doesn't happen, we may come up with a reason. And excuse. And most importantly, we aren't impressed. We don't talk about it. We don't remember it for very long. And if we want to believe that our speaking or praying actually causes things to happen that otherwise would not have happened, we sure don't post about it!

There was no violation of a principle, that I know of, when my brother died of cancer. It would most likely not be helpful for you to speculate about that. You didn't know him. He wasn't perfect, but he was a good father and would have been an awesome grandfather. He got to see his first granddaughter before he died. He has 9 grandkids now. They are not better off without him, IMO, and if you disagree, you should just keep it to yourself.
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:06 AM
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Sometimes we speak (or ask/pray) something and it happens. Sometimes it doesn't happen. When it does, we are impressed and we remember it, talk about about it. We (sometimes) believe it happened because of what we spoke or prayed. What would I have said? Most likely "wow!" or something. It would be a somewhat amazing coincidence. (IMO )

When we speak or pray something and it doesn't happen, we may come up with a reason. And excuse. And most importantly, we aren't impressed. We don't talk about it. We don't remember it for very long. And if we want to believe that our speaking or praying actually causes things to happen that otherwise would not have happened, we sure don't post about it!

There was no violation of a principle, that I know of, when my brother died of cancer. It would most likely not be helpful for you to speculate about that. You didn't know him. He wasn't perfect, but he was a good father and would have been an awesome grandfather. He got to see his first granddaughter before he died. He has 9 grandkids now. They are not better off without him, IMO, and if you disagree, you should just keep it to yourself.
Yes, the opening here seems to be what most are left with, in seeming defiance of Scripture, which you define in the middle. This completely denies Scripture, AND YOUR FAMILIARS, who would agree that you, Timmy, are getting just what you speak, just like everyone else; whether more or less literally in the exact moment is irrelevant, imo.

As to the last, I can't really speak to it; I meant to address what was surely the "agreement" in his healing prayers, since he apparently died in order? But maybe not; any parents still alive at the time? And still, this is not any proof that HE was being cursed (but maybe parents).

But please don't take that wrong, either. Most "Christians" die the sin unto death, I'm pretty sure. I don't think this affects salvation.
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Yes, the opening here seems to be what most are left with, in seeming defiance of Scripture, which you define in the middle. This completely denies Scripture, AND YOUR FAMILIARS, who would agree that you, Timmy, are getting just what you speak, just like everyone else; whether more or less literally in the exact moment is irrelevant, imo.
My FAMILIARS? What do mean?
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As to the last, I can't really speak to it; I meant to address what was surely the "agreement" in his healing prayers, since he apparently died in order? But maybe not; any parents still alive at the time? And still, this is not any proof that HE was being cursed (but maybe parents).
What, do you want a transcript of all the prayers? Are you kidding? And yes, there were parents and still are. What in the world are you talking about?
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But please don't take that wrong, either. Most "Christians" die the sin unto death, I'm pretty sure. I don't think this affects salvation.
Mmkay.
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Old 11-02-2012, 11:49 AM
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[QUOTE=Timmy;1200263]My FAMILIARS? What do mean?[QUOTE]

Your black cats and imps obviously.
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My FAMILIARS? What do mean?

What, do you want a transcript of all the prayers? Are you kidding? And yes, there were parents and still are. What in the world are you talking about?

Mmkay.
Um, wow, I just meant those people around you
in the course of a day, that might hear and witness your word.
I guess I am harder to get than I imagined.

(hold that thought tho, Prax...)

When a child dies before a parent, it is
often considered a sign. It is a sign.

There are references in Scripture;
but I hate to get too far into this,
as it ends up being personal, even
though it's just the way things are.

If you can understand that dying before
your parents, of cancer, is not normal,
without getting into the personal
application of it, then fine.

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