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12-20-2012, 09:49 AM
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Re: Interesting Logic Question:
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I feel your pain. But again... it's her body. Neither me, nor you, nor the GOVERNMENT can seize her and control what she wishes to do with her body. She's secure in her person, property, papers, and effects.
I think it's best to leave the control ploys and leave the choice up to individual women. Then I believe that as husbands, boyfriends, politicians, preachers, Christians, we should try to address those issues that might cause a woman to consider an abortion.
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Nobody seizes anything. Nobody makes her do anything against her will. Women have been killing their babies for centuries. But to give approval of the heinous act and make it legal is immoral. And what of the baby's body? What about the poor child being cut to pieces, or salted to death? What about the freedoms and liberties of the child? It's a blight on our society. It's not a liberty issue---it's a fundamental right to life issue.
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12-20-2012, 12:15 PM
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Re: Interesting Logic Question:
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Nobody seizes anything. Nobody makes her do anything against her will. Women have been killing their babies for centuries. But to give approval of the heinous act and make it legal is immoral. And what of the baby's body? What about the poor child being cut to pieces, or salted to death? What about the freedoms and liberties of the child? It's a blight on our society. It's not a liberty issue---it's a fundamental right to life issue.
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Okay... let's say they ban abortions tomorrow. And a woman wants an abortion for personal reasons which she doesn't wish to disclose. What happens?
Let's say that woman is denied an abortion. So she procures one illegally. What happens?
P.S.
Many immoral things are "legal". Legality has NOTHING to do with morality.
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12-20-2012, 12:37 PM
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Re: Interesting Logic Question:
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Okay... let's say they ban abortions tomorrow. And a woman wants an abortion for personal reasons which she doesn't wish to disclose. What happens?
Let's say that woman is denied an abortion. So she procures one illegally. What happens?
P.S.
Many immoral things are "legal". Legality has NOTHING to do with morality.
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I really don't know where you are going with this. What happens? Um, she kills her kid, right? If she gets caught, she goes to jail. Or maybe she dies from bleeding to death because of an illegal choice she made.
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12-20-2012, 12:53 PM
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I really don't know where you are going with this. What happens? Um, she kills her kid, right? If she gets caught, she goes to jail. Or maybe she dies from bleeding to death because of an illegal choice she made.
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I'm curious, how long? What's the charge?
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12-20-2012, 12:56 PM
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Re: Interesting Logic Question:
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I'm curious, how long? What's the charge?
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I figure you could go either way.
Murder
Or (if she was caught due to resulting injuries) attempted suicide.
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12-20-2012, 01:06 PM
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Re: Interesting Logic Question:
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I figure you could go either way.
Murder
Or (if she was caught due to resulting injuries) attempted suicide.
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Scotty, there isn't statute of limitations on murder. If we declare the crime "murder" every woman who has ever procured an abortion can be hunted down and tried for murder.
And do you really think we'd ever try a woman for "murder" if she had an abortion?
Has the United States ever tried a woman for "murder" for procuring an abortion?
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12-20-2012, 01:20 PM
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Re: Interesting Logic Question:
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Scotty, there isn't statute of limitations on murder. If we declare the crime "murder" every woman who has ever procured an abortion can be hunted down and tried for murder.
And do you really think we'd ever try a woman for "murder" if she had an abortion?
Has the United States ever tried a woman for "murder" for procuring an abortion?
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Your asking irrelevent questions.
First off, you can grandfather in the 'has beens'
Second, doesn't matter what I 'think' we would do, you asked what possible charges 'could be' considered.
Third, doesn't matter what the US has ever done in the past because it has no bearing on what your asking could be done in the future.
If you look at it realistically, I do believe she should be charged with at least manslaughter. Maybe neglegent homicide. But the one performing underground abortions should be charged with murder.
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12-20-2012, 01:33 PM
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Re: Interesting Logic Question:
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I'm curious, how long? What's the charge?
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Murder.
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