Dropped By & Somewhat Dismayed But Not Surprised

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by Ron

Really MisBratified? I stand by my post & think the thread in question is in poor taste & serves no one but those who have an axe to grind.
You have a hypothetical question, my post is on reality.
Therein lies the difference.
I am not dodging nor evading & as for the men of God in question, I can disagree without slogging people.
CC1, I beleive had nothing both Biblically & personally to gain by posting the thread in question & I am sorry to say this but I also stand by the statement God is not impressed with the willful & careles slogging of Ministers---and that caution goes for me as well.

Your experiences were good with the man. A lot of people can say the same thing. Your loyalty is the result of those good memories. There are others who were abused spiritually by this very person who had such a capacity for good. And there aren't just a few. There's quite a long list. For many I know these discussions have been healing and a vindication of what they believed was a man who, although worshiped by some, had gross hypocrisy in his own life and used his office and influenece to destroy people, alienate people and ostracize people---sometimes for offenses far less egregious than what surfaced to be his own. Happy for you and your warm fuzzies. There are many whose memories of him are less than fond.

[Godzchild]

Originally Posted by H Gang

Your experiences were good with the man. A lot of people can say the same thing. Your loyalty is the result of those good memories. There are others who were abused spiritually by this very person who had such a capacity for good. And there aren't just a few. There's quite a long list. For many I know these discussions have been healing and a vindication of what they believed was a man who, although worshiped by some, had gross hypocrisy in his own life and used his office and influenece to destroy people, alienate people and ostracize people---sometimes for offenses far less egregious than what surfaced to be his own. Happy for you and your warm fuzzies. There are many whose memories of him are less than fond.

well said H Gang~

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by Godzchild

well said H Gang~

Part of the pain was trying to convince people how unfair, unjust, condemning and manipulative this man could be to some of us when his public profile was a great leader, pastor, anointed vessel and servant of Jesus Christ. There were many friends and family members driven far away from Jesus, from church. Yet we were the ones who had a bad spirit, unsubmissive, carnal, worldly, defective even backslidden.

[Godzchild]

Originally Posted by H Gang

Part of the pain was trying to convince people how unfair, unjust, condemning and manipulative this man could be to some of us when his public profile was a great leader, pastor, anointed vessel and servant of Jesus Christ. There were many friends and family members driven far away from Jesus, from church. Yet we were the ones who had a bad spirit, unsubmissive, carnal, worldly, defective even backslidden.

you hit the nail on the head! MANY FAMILIES!!!!!

[Ron]

Originally Posted by H Gang

Part of the pain was trying to convince people how unfair, unjust, condemning and manipulative this man could be to some of us when his public profile was a great leader, pastor, anointed vessel and servant of Jesus Christ. There were many friends and family members driven far away from Jesus, from church. Yet we were the ones who had a bad spirit, unsubmissive, carnal, worldly, defective even backslidden.

Been there, done that, bought the tshirt, got the movie rights, etc;,
Is this Biblical? Is it helping the matter, cuz to tell you the truth, coming here & bringing the dirty laundry doesn't help anyone & puts one in danger of being censured by God temporarly or permanently.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by H Gang

Your experiences were good with the man. A lot of people can say the same thing. Your loyalty is the result of those good memories. There are others who were abused spiritually by this very person who had such a capacity for good. And there aren't just a few. There's quite a long list. For many I know these discussions have been healing and a vindication of what they believed was a man who, although worshiped by some, had gross hypocrisy in his own life and used his office and influenece to destroy people, alienate people and ostracize people---sometimes for offenses far less egregious than what surfaced to be his own. Happy for you and your warm fuzzies. There are many whose memories of him are less than fond.

Yes, my memories are good, I can only speak from persona experience.
In doing so, I am not calling into question the things that others say may or have happened to them.
There is a Biblical way to deal with these things is all I am saying to post this thread, serves only to step outside the Bible & further inflame an already tenious situation.
Look, people who may have been hurt are not going to help the situation any by slogging the man.

[H Gang]

Originally Posted by Ron

Yes, my memories are good, I can only speak from persona experience.
In doing so, I am not calling into question the things that others say may or have happened to them.
There is a Biblical way to deal with these things is all I am saying to post this thread, serves only to step outside the Bible & further inflame an already tenious situation.
Look, people who may have been hurt are not going to help the situation any by slogging the man.

He slogged himself.

[Godzchild]

Originally Posted by H Gang

He slogged himself.

and did a bang up job at it too