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Old 01-26-2013, 04:19 PM
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PO, I think it would be impossible for anybody to overlook Ron's point of view as he proclaimed it adnauseum a bazillion times. (Only outdone by Mr.television one.)

Your second point "I fel as though all and any sin is the same in God's eyes" brings up some interesting ethical questions.

If what you say is true then should we remove a pastor who breaks the law by driving too fast and gets a speeding ticket? If the sin is the same in God's eyes as adultery shouldn't we treat all sins the same?

I think it is incorrect to say that all and any sin is the same in God's eyes. I believe all sin is wrong, bad, etc and God disapproves of all sin. However clearly there are distinctions between a person who gets a speeding ticket, a person committing adultery, and a pedophile. All have done wrong in God's eyes, all have sinned, but certainly each of those sins has a very different set of results that occur because of the sin and each should be treated in a vastly different way than the others.
I don't believe it would be wise to put sins in little separate compartments or to gauge them in degrees. The Bible says, "For the wages of sin is death." It doesn't categorize them, it simply applies to all sin.

I would agree that the results of some sins have greater effects than others, i.e. murder and theft. But at the end of the day, all sin separates us from God.
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I don't believe it would be wise to put sins in little separate compartments or to gauge them in degrees. The Bible says, "For the wages of sin is death." It doesn't categorize them, it simply applies to all sin.

I would agree that the results of some sins have greater effects than others, i.e. murder and theft. But at the end of the day, all sin separates us from God.
OK, then. All pastors in the entire world are fired!
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OK, then. All pastors in the entire world are fired!
LOL! So now ALL pastors speed?

I believe breaking the law opens up a level of dishonesty in our hearts. At least I have felt dishonest when I have found myself speeding. Thank God for cruise control. lol

Perhaps when we feel we are not endangering the lives of others, we don't look at speeding as a serious violation, but we view it differently when it's selfish driving, i.e. possibility reckless driving?
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LOL! So now ALL pastors speed?

I believe breaking the law opens up a level of dishonesty in our hearts. At least I have felt dishonest when I have found myself speeding. Thank God for cruise control. lol

Perhaps when we feel we are not endangering the lives of others, we don't look at speeding as a serious violation, but we view it differently when it's selfish driving, i.e. possibility reckless driving?
No, but I'm pretty sure they all "sin" in some way or another, once in a while. Do you think there are some who have remained 100% sinless since they began pastoring?
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No, but I'm pretty sure they all "sin" in some way or another, once in a while. Do you think there are some who have remained 100% sinless since they began pastoring?
No, and I doubt any of us, including you and me, have either. Those three fingers pointing back are always a booger.
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No, and I doubt any of us, including you and me, have either. Those three fingers pointing back are always a booger.
OK, then. All pastors are fired.
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OK, then. All pastors are fired.
Are you fired from anything? You'd have to be perfect yourself, right?
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