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Old 02-06-2013, 10:26 AM
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What is proper worship or praise.
The Bible says in bringing back the Ark of the Lord to Israel in
14 And David danced before the Lord with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

15 So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the Lord with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.

16 And as the ark of the Lord came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the Lord; and she despised him in her heart.

17 And they brought in the ark of the Lord, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the Lord.

18 And as soon as David had made an end of offering burnt offerings and peace offerings, he blessed the people in the name of the Lord of hosts.

19 And he dealt among all the people, even among the whole multitude of Israel, as well to the women as men, to every one a cake of bread, and a good piece of flesh, and a flagon of wine. So all the people departed every one to his house.

20 Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!

21 And David said unto Michal, It was before the Lord, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the Lord, over Israel: therefore will I play before the Lord.

22 And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.

23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

Seems to me that King David got a little rowdy in worship before the Lord, so much so, that he seemed to have hummbled himself in the sight of all Israel!
God did not chide him, and seems to infer that God struck Michal with a barren womb until the day she died as he God was displeased with her attitude towards David's worship!
Boy, that would preach.

So, those of you commenting that this is not Biblical worship, what is Biblical woirship according to you?
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Old 02-06-2013, 10:34 AM
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What is proper worship or praise.
The Bible says in bringing back the Ark of the Lord to Israel in
14 And David danced before the Lord with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

15 So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the Lord with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.

16 And as the ark of the Lord came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the Lord; and she despised him in her heart.

17 And they brought in the ark of the Lord, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the Lord.

18 And as soon as David had made an end of offering burnt offerings and peace offerings, he blessed the people in the name of the Lord of hosts.

19 And he dealt among all the people, even among the whole multitude of Israel, as well to the women as men, to every one a cake of bread, and a good piece of flesh, and a flagon of wine. So all the people departed every one to his house.

20 Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!

21 And David said unto Michal, It was before the Lord, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the Lord, over Israel: therefore will I play before the Lord.

22 And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.

23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

Seems to me that King David got a little rowdy in worship before the Lord, so much so, that he seemed to have hummbled himself in the sight of all Israel!
God did not chide him, and seems to infer that God struck Michal with a barren womb until the day she died as he God was displeased with her attitude towards David's worship!
Boy, that would preach.

So, those of you commenting that this is not Biblical worship, what is Biblical woirship according to you?
I love David's response to her:

22 [B]And I will yet be more vile (light, swift, sharp) than thus, and will be base (humble) in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.

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Old 02-06-2013, 10:38 AM
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I love David's response to her:

22 [B]And I will yet be more vile (light, swift, sharp) than thus, and will be base (humble) in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.

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What is proper worship or praise.
The Bible says in bringing back the Ark of the Lord to Israel in
14 And David danced before the Lord with all his might; and David was girded with a linen ephod.

15 So David and all the house of Israel brought up the ark of the Lord with shouting, and with the sound of the trumpet.

16 And as the ark of the Lord came into the city of David, Michal Saul's daughter looked through a window, and saw king David leaping and dancing before the Lord; and she despised him in her heart.

17 And they brought in the ark of the Lord, and set it in his place, in the midst of the tabernacle that David had pitched for it: and David offered burnt offerings and peace offerings before the Lord.

18 And as soon as David had made an end of offering burnt offerings and peace offerings, he blessed the people in the name of the Lord of hosts.

19 And he dealt among all the people, even among the whole multitude of Israel, as well to the women as men, to every one a cake of bread, and a good piece of flesh, and a flagon of wine. So all the people departed every one to his house.

20 Then David returned to bless his household. And Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David, and said, How glorious was the king of Israel to day, who uncovered himself to day in the eyes of the handmaids of his servants, as one of the vain fellows shamelessly uncovereth himself!

21 And David said unto Michal, It was before the Lord, which chose me before thy father, and before all his house, to appoint me ruler over the people of the Lord, over Israel: therefore will I play before the Lord.

22 And I will yet be more vile than thus, and will be base in mine own sight: and of the maidservants which thou hast spoken of, of them shall I be had in honour.

23 Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.

Seems to me that King David got a little rowdy in worship before the Lord, so much so, that he seemed to have hummbled himself in the sight of all Israel!
God did not chide him, and seems to infer that God struck Michal with a barren womb until the day she died as he God was displeased with her attitude towards David's worship!
Boy, that would preach.

So, those of you commenting that this is not Biblical worship, what is Biblical woirship according to you?
Was David going into convulsions or seizure-like movements or was he dancing traditional Jewish dances before the Lord? And we don't really have any evidence in the NT church of such productions---walk six paces, dance and about, walk six paces dance and shout. David was celebrating the return of the ark to Israel and making it the center of their worship. Today WE are the Temple of the HS. I don't have to have a Sunday gathering to worship. I can worship 24/7 anywhere. Why don't these folks fall out, huck and buck at the grocery or on the street or in a parking lot or in their living room?

I'm afraid I've observed a lot of emotionalism and putting on a show at church. Why are the "moves of God" only between 10-12 on Sundays? Could it be that there's a temptation to show out in the confines of church? I think it's important to be consistent. You should worship God in public like you do in private. I wouldn't do anything in public worship that I'm not consistently doing in private. Have you ever heard of someone getting "slain in the Spirit" at home alone in their bedroom? Have you heard of someone running the halls of their house when no one was there to observe? Just askin...
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Was David going into convulsions or seizure-like movements or was he dancing traditional Jewish dances before the Lord? And we don't really have any evidence in the NT church of such productions---walk six paces, dance and about, walk six paces dance and shout. David was celebrating the return of the ark to Israel and making it the center of their worship. Today WE are the Temple of the HS. I don't have to have a Sunday gathering to worship. I can worship 24/7 anywhere. Why don't these folks fall out, huck and buck at the grocery or on the street or in a parking lot or in their living room?

I'm afraid I've observed a lot of emotionalism and putting on a show at church. Why are the "moves of God" only between 10-12 on Sundays? Could it be that there's a temptation to show out in the confines of church? I think it's important to be consistent. You should worship God in public like you do in private. I wouldn't do anything in public worship that I'm not consistently doing in private. Have you ever heard of someone getting "slain in the Spirit" at home alone in their bedroom? Have you heard of someone running the halls of their house when no one was there to observe? Just askin...
I have heard someone say that serving God shouldn't have any emotion.
God saved my bacon from an eternal fire & I ain't gonna be emotional?
God gave me my physical life & eternal life & preserves me day in & day out & there isn't going to be an emotional response to that?
DB, the Bible is rife with emotional displays demonstrated by a pyscical response.
As for how we respond at home, many times I or my family will be singing, clapping our hands, weeping, & just generally worsipping God.
Do we have to show some restraint?
Yes, we live in a duplex with neighbours who moved in this past summer who are quiet as a Church mouse & have already indicated that our teanagers are a little on the noisey side, so yes, we need to be cognizance of that in are actions.
In regards to Church, the Bible declares to sing, clap, shout in our praise & worship--if that bothers you well....
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Old 02-07-2013, 10:15 AM
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I have heard someone say that serving God shouldn't have any emotion.
God saved my bacon from an eternal fire & I ain't gonna be emotional?
God gave me my physical life & eternal life & preserves me day in & day out & there isn't going to be an emotional response to that?
DB, the Bible is rife with emotional displays demonstrated by a pyscical response.
As for how we respond at home, many times I or my family will be singing, clapping our hands, weeping, & just generally worsipping God.
Do we have to show some restraint?
Yes, we live in a duplex with neighbours who moved in this past summer who are quiet as a Church mouse & have already indicated that our teanagers are a little on the noisey side, so yes, we need to be cognizance of that in are actions.
In regards to Church, the Bible declares to sing, clap, shout in our praise & worship--if that bothers you well....
Sing, clap, shout, great! But, that's not what the discussion is about.
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Sing, clap, shout, great! But, that's not what the discussion is about.
Really? Isn't this the thread title?
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Really? Isn't this the thread title?
No. It's not.
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