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Old 02-13-2013, 10:28 AM
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I agree that would be complete deliverance. However, God doesn't deliver heterosexuals from their attraction to the opposite sex to prevent fornication or adultery, so I'm not sure that's His normal modus operandi. (Delivering us from our flesh.)
So God's intention is that a certain percentage of people will never have sex? At least straights can marry. And it's better to marry than to burn.
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So God's intention is that a certain percentage of people will never have sex? At least straights can marry. And it's better to marry than to burn.
Is it God's intention that people who like to steal never own things that don't belong to them? What if they aren't able to get a good job and they're poor all their life? Is it okay to steal then?

How would it be God's "intention that a certain percentage of people will never have sex" unless you believe the He's the One who caused their same-sex attraction?

However, it is worth considering that if a man is born without an attraction for women, that perhaps he's intended to be a eunuch. Who knows? Does God have a plan for some men that they're missing--because in our society, if you don't have sexual attraction toward someone or something, you're the most abnormal of all? I mean, you state this: "...God's intention is that a certain percentage of people will never have sex...." as if it's the end of the world or something. A fate worse than death. Are we slaves to our sexuality, unable to find satisfaction or fulfillment unless our life includes sex? (Mind you, I'm not arguing that sex isn't a wonderful thing. I'm just throwing the idea out there that maybe we overemphasize the necessity of sex in a happy life.)

What does this scripture mean? Does it only apply to straight men?

Matthew 19:12 "For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

It seems to me that living a single life, if one can't have a scripturally permissible sexual relationship, is a biblically acceptable and even suggested solution.
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Is it God's intention that people who like to steal never own things that don't belong to them? What if they aren't able to get a good job and they're poor all their life? Is it okay to steal then? ...
Worst. Analogy. Ever.
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Worst. Analogy. Ever.
Why? Because kleptomaniacs are a smaller niche of society than homosexuals? So a person who is born lacking the ability to "refrain from the urge to steal items"--this person is free to steal and God is fine with it?

Or is homosexuality the only sin listed in the Bible that a person can be born with?

Wait...what about heterosexuals? Aren't all heterosexuals born with the inclination to have straight sex? They have to make a conscious choice, then, to either have sex within the bounds of marriage or to remain single. (Assuming we're talking about Christians who are in obedience with God's laws.) How is the struggle of the single heterosexual man or woman any easier than the struggle of the homosexual? I have acquaintances in the ministry who are nearly 40 and still single. As far as I know, they live celibate lives. How is their choice any less difficult than the choice of a homosexual person who remains single in obedience to God's laws?

And yes, I am aware that heterosexuals have the option to marry. However, not everyone finds a spouse, despite their intention to do so, so what about them? Same question for you: God intends for those people to never have sex? Egads. Horror of horrors. Those straight people who haven't found a spouse--they can't ever have sex. How will they ever live their lives and be happy?
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