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[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Can you not fail a test???? Where in scripture does it say that He could not have given it to those temptation or test. He was born without and died without sin as to be the spotless lamb.

I am simply unable to separate Him from His Diety. I believe that He cannot sin, as He is God in the flesh. It would make God a failure. God is not a man that He can lie - so He is unable to be deceiving. He knows what is in man - so He cannot be deceived. How can He fail? He can be challenged and tested, but fail?

There are very few women that can tempt me because I am high maintenance.

Gotta stick with the one that can handle it, huh? Same here.

Good stuff sister!

Enjoying the conversation.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I am simply unable to separate Him from His Diety. I believe that He cannot sin, as He is God in the flesh. It would make God a failure. God is not a man that He can lie - so He is unable to be deceiving. He knows what is in man - so He cannot be deceived. How can He fail? He can be challenged and tested, but fail?

So, what was the purpose of God taking on the robe of flesh, really?

I mean, he could have healed people from heaven......why make the human body die on the cross? And how could Jesus have died if he wasn't human? God can't die......deity can't die.

So, here we are on the horns of a dilemma. Not only was Jesus flesh, but his flesh didn't really want to be crucified.....he had to PRAY to the Father for strength......doesn't sound like deity to me....sounds like humanity.......

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

So, what was the purpose of God taking on the robe of flesh, really?

I mean, he could have healed people from heaven......why make the human body die on the cross? And how could Jesus have died if he wasn't human? God can't die......deity can't die.

So, here we are on the horns of a dilemma. Not only was Jesus flesh, but his flesh didn't really want to be crucified.....he had to PRAY to the Father for strength......doesn't sound like deity to me....sounds like humanity.......

Certainly, but not to the extent that we are. Joseph wasn't his father, as you and I have a father. I couldn't imagine how Mary viewed him all of her life.

[Luke]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Once again I am NOT talking about a sin nature.

If you are going to use Roams 7that is what you are talking about. Please explain to me what you are talking about because I cannot see the difference between a sin nature and a flesh nature.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

So, what was the purpose of God taking on the robe of flesh, really?

The only simple answer I know to be true (to follow the Law of His Word, as He does nothing outside of His Word) is found in Isaiah 59:16 "And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him."

No one could have redeemed us, He had to come Himself.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

The only simple answer I know to be true (to follow the Law of His Word, as He does nothing outside of His Word) is found in Isaiah 59:16 "And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him."

No one could have redeemed us, He had to come Himself.

Why couldn't God have just done that from heaven?

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Why couldn't God have just done that from heaven?

We only know Him through His Word. Everything He has written, must come to pass.

Isiah 9:6 " For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

We can talk about the Kinsman Redeemer in His Word - it must be done.

[Michael Phelps]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

We only know Him through His Word. Everything He was written, must come to pass.

Isiah 9:6 " For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace."

I know I'm asking rhetorical questions, but my understanding was the God took on the robe of flesh to conquer sin once and for all. Not to obliterate it, but to be the "first fruits" of humanity that could break thru the sin barrier......i.e., as the first man Adam introduced sin, the second man (Jesus) conquered sin.

He who knew no sin became sin for us, that we may become the righteousness of God in him.

The real question is - how far did His humanity go? Was he able to sin but avoided sinning? Was he unable to sin?

My guess is that he was fully human, and as I mentioned earlier, he asked that the cup be taken from him on Golgotha, he despaired "my God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (doesn't sound like the words of a fully convinced deified being), and he actually died..........

So, from all of this, I draw the conclusion that Jesus was fully God, yet fully man. I believe the humanity HAD to be able to sin in order to defeat sin....otherwise, he was nothing more than a robot....

[houston]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

What about where Jesus Satan tempted Jesus??? If Christ could have not sinned why tempt Him? He was without sin.

Maybe he didn't really know who he was messin with?

[houston]

I don't think that I believe that Jesus could sin. Why? Because He was God in the flesh. Why be tempted? To feel what creation goes through. To die saying "this is what THEY go through. This is what I will endure for THEM."