Bombshell- Considering going back to the UPC

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Ferd

my friend you are breaking a cardinal rule by not using the whole context of scripture. Acts 10 clarifies the point. EVERYONE who recieved the HG did so the same way. If I am writing a story, and I refer to an event multiple times I will not give all the detail every single time. Luke did not give every detail every time. BUT He gave plenty of detail and used very clear words.
Acts 10:
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

[seekerman]

If only oneness pentecostals were as vocal and demanding about the blood of the Lamb of God and redemption as they are about tongues. Tongues has never redeemed a single individual and not a single individual has been redeemed by anything but the blood of the Lamb of God.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Ferd

my friend you are breaking a cardinal rule by not using the whole context of scripture. Acts 10 clarifies the point. EVERYONE who recieved the HG did so the same way. If I am writing a story, and I refer to an event multiple times I will not give all the detail every single time. Luke did not give every detail every time. BUT He gave plenty of detail and used very clear words.
Acts 10:
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.

45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.

46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?

Originally Posted by Barb

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Thank you, good grief, how obvious is that?

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Thank you Ferd. It is so simple.

Originally Posted by revrandy

Ask yourself why Mary the Mother of Jesus needed to be in the Upper Room...
If anyone would have a pass to get into heaven it would have been her...
But yet she and Jesus's own brothers were in the Upper Room and had to be
filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues...
It is the way God chose to signal to mankind that He indeed was dwelling within them!...
You can't argue with the Bible...

So the premise is that Acts 10 proves that tongues is proof of the initial evidence doctrine. "Good grief how obvious is that. It is so simple. You can't argue with the Bible."

Well, I do agree with Randy's sentiment, but ironically enough, it is oneness pentecostals who DO argue with the Bible.

I was going to answer the Acts 10 argument in my next post. But I'm going to start a fresh post. So I can copy and past the scripture, and help you guys out.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

So the premise is that Acts 10 proves that tongues is proof of the initial evidence doctrine. "Good grief how obvious is that. It is so simple. You can't argue with the Bible."

Well, I do agree with Randy's sentiment, but ironically enough, it is oneness pentecostals who DO argue with the Bible.

I was going to answer the Acts 10 argument in my next post. But I'm going to start a fresh post. So I can copy and past the scripture, and help you guys out.

A simple yes or no will suffice - Have you ever spoken in tongues?

[houston]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

A simple yes or no will suffice - Have you ever spoken in tongues?

The not so subtle setup question.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

A simple yes or no will suffice - Have you ever spoken in tongues?

Yes. Was UPC for nearly 10 years. Baptized in Jesus name January 23,2000, received the Holy Ghost (in OP theology) in February that year. Was in UPC until 2008, then independant holiness church for 2 more years.

Then joined an ex-upc evangelist turned pastor who turned in his card, and helped in his church for a year.

Now attend a Bible church. Still believe in oneness and baptism in JN. Still believe in spiritual gifts, hence the subject matter and thread title.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

A simple yes or no will suffice - Have you ever spoken in tongues?

Yes

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Jason Badejo

Yes.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

Yes

lol Thanks, Budro!

I see you are also a part of Acts 10 and it still applies, just sayin'...