What Did She Expect?

[MarieA27]

Originally Posted by Lafon

That's absurd! I am not now, nor have I ever been in 74+ years of living, the least attracted to men. Your statement is offensive to me!

Hmm...isn't this basically what you just said about the gays, that they chose to be attracted to the same sex? If has to go both ways. If they choose their attractions (temptations) then you do too. Same sex attractions is a temptation, just like all other sins and abominations. No one chooses to have lusts to kill people. No one chooses to be attracted to little girls and boys. We must fight these temptations, lusts and carnal desires.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MarieA27

Hmm...isn't this basically what you just said about the gays, that they chose to be attracted to the same sex? If has to go both ways. If they choose their attractions (temptations) then you do too. Same sex attractions is a temptation, just like all other sins and abominations. No one chooses to have lusts to kill people. No one chooses to be attracted to little girls and boys. We must fight these temptations, lusts and carnal desires.

I disagree with you on this. In the first place, opposite-sex attraction is NOT a sin, it is the natural order of things -I personally find pretty girls attractive. Second, SAME-sex attraction is not a sin either -if the person recognizes that acting upon it WOULD be and actively fights to keep his (or hers) "fantasizing" to a minimum.

[MarieA27]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

I disagree with you on this. In the first place, opposite-sex attraction is NOT a sin, it is the natural order of things -I personally find pretty girls attractive. Second, SAME-sex attraction is not a sin either -if the person recognizes that acting upon it WOULD be and actively fights to keep his (or hers) "fantasizing" to a minimum.

I don't think that I said that opposite-sex attraction is a sin, sorry if that was implied. I was mainly arguing the whole, "they chose to like the same sex," thing, wherein I don't feel anyone chooses what type of sex that they're attracted too. And there's one thing with knowing that unlawful desires and feelings are wrong, where you'll push away any thoughts and desires that enter into your head, but it's quiet another when you're fantasizing and contemplating it.

The problem with this is, if you allow this train of thought how minimum is minimum? I mean would you be saying the same thing to a pedophile? To a rapist? To a murderer? That if they only fantasize about doing these deeds a little bit, that they're alright?

[Titus2woman]

Is there someone here who has NEVER genuinely wanted to kill someone?

You can put your hand down now... you are a better person than me.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Titus2woman

Is there someone here who has NEVER genuinely wanted to kill someone?

You can put your hand down now... you are a better person than me.

Have I ever wanted to literally kill someone that I have personally known or someone that did something to me? I can't think of anyone, although I've wanted to beat the living tar out of someone more than once.

Now have I ever wanted to literally kill someone period? Well, I do admit having fantasied about putting some lead into the mother of the Boston bombers after having heard her latest rants. But that would be wrong! Wouldn't it?

[Titus2woman]

I remember when I heard that the the cute little blonde boy across the street, who always played outside alone even though he couldn't have been more than three, had been taken away by CPS. The removal was because while his mother was at work her boyfriend spiral fractured both the little guy's arms (a spiral fracture is from twisting until bones break). When they took him to the hospital he had all kinds of old healed fractures that went back to infancy including a divot in his skull. It's a good thing they took the guy to jail because I'm not sure... I believe I would have enjoyed more than beating the tar out of him... and I had some time to think on it... and it still seemed like a reasonable idea.

Lot of repentance over that one.

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by MarieA27

I don't think that I said that opposite-sex attraction is a sin, sorry if that was implied. I was mainly arguing the whole, "they chose to like the same sex," thing, wherein I don't feel anyone chooses what type of sex that they're attracted too. And there's one thing with knowing that unlawful desires and feelings are wrong, where you'll push away any thoughts and desires that enter into your head, but it's quiet another when you're fantasizing and contemplating it.

The problem with this is, if you allow this train of thought how minimum is minimum? I mean would you be saying the same thing to a pedophile? To a rapist? To a murderer? That if they only fantasize about doing these deeds a little bit, that they're alright?

I agree with you here. We're probably both dancing around exact semantics while overall having the same opinion, perhaps minus small details.